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R50/53 Buying a new Mini... MC or MCS????

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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave
As mentioned above, MCc = MINI Cooper (non-s) Convertible

Very true. I'll be the first to admit my 115 hp MC is faster than I was capable of driving it (63.403 above ).
So that was your fast time above all other Justacooper.

Thanks everyone for answering my question.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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I have an MC and it's great in the city with more power than you'll need, now if you do a lot of highway driving I'd suggest the MCS, the extra gear and a little more power would be nice on the highway.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Well, thanks for all the info. For some reason, my last reply didn't go through??? Anyway, I still think I'm gona stick with the MC for price, gas/milage and if I do get the need for more power, it seems like modding this baby to get a little more power wouldn't be a problem...
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
CNred's MC looks pretty aggressive and nice. He (she?) is sporting a
MCS front bumper on the MC. very cool.


Nice! So an MCS bumper fits an MC???
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dinandriver
I'm not to concerned about the performance,
Wait a minute, your called dinandriver and your not concerned with performance ...

...just kidding ya

I would suggest driving a MCS and a MC back to back along the same route to see which you like better based on your driving style and the types of roads you drive.

I like the way my MCS drives, handles and rides, even with the 17" rims and run flats. Plus the supercharger whine is pretty awesome to listen to
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Dude, I thought I was only gonna like MCS< but I was so surprised when I drove WINSTON the PARTYBUS for the first time, I Knew I must have it, it is 30mpg fun as hell, and looks from everyone..... Theres no downside go MC!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sddave
Wait a minute, your called dinandriver and your not concerned with performance ...

...just kidding ya

I would suggest driving a MCS and a MC back to back along the same route to see which you like better based on your driving style and the types of roads you drive.

I like the way my MCS drives, handles and rides, even with the 17" rims and run flats. Plus the supercharger whine is pretty awesome to listen to
You got me
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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Also, I sould have mentioned this in the begining. If I end up getting the S it will be striped... If I stick with the non S, I get my sunroof, xenon lights, 17" wheels, winter package/heated seats, auto lights, auto wipers and the auto air.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 05:17 AM
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I'm in pretty much the same boat.

I had a S before, and had to get rid of it for financial reasons. I'm back to where I can get another mini, and I'm going MC.

I love to autocross, and unless I would add the lsd to the S, which makes it even more expensive, the MC is just about as fast, and MORE competitive given the classing differences.

plus, I think a MC with aero kit is the best looking of the bunch. (and I see a sale for aero kits right now....)
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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based on your statements, i recommend getting a standard cooper. I dont think the looks of a bonnet scoop warrants the $2500 premium in price if that was the only item.

The cooper is a wonderful car with all the charm and charisma with the added benefits. the cooper shoudl have a more comfortable and compliant ride versys the MCS, offers better fuel economy, lends for some extra money for options like the Aerokit or other accessories.

I think you'll be happier with Cooper than the S. sounds like you'll be enjoying a cooper sooner than you would an S given the west coast delivery times... good luck
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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I'm getting a regular Cooper with a few upgrades for a few reasons. First off, my budget. I wanted to add a few extras to it, and the S was already out of my price range at bare bones. I also realised a lot of the 'standard' stuff on the S that isn't on the base I really don't want or need. Second, gas mileage. I currently have a Honda Civic and like good gas mileage! Third, the ride - I test drove the S and found it a lot more rough and I didn't like the ride as much as the base.

Overall, I'm a handling guy not a horsepower guy, so to me it was easy to pick. I don't mind extra horsepower, but it's not a deciding factor. I prefered to have a few options on the base than a bare-bones S.

However, if you DO get a base cooper, make sure you upgrade to the sport seats - the regular ones are pretty uncomfortable and don't really hold you in I think.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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One thing I particularly like about MINI, unlike the parent company and most every other car company out there, if you don't get the absolutely top of the line model, your MINI does not look cheapened.
Have you looked at a base model 3 series vs say a 330? or a V6'd Mustang vs a Mustang GT?

A Cooper looks just as good as a Cooper S. For the extra money, you get the extra gear, supercharger, stiffer suspension etc. Certainly value for money, but if you get a Cooper, MINI does not decontent and cheapen the interior to make you feel like crap for not going top of the line.

Now go buy your MINI and show us some pictures!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Isn't the sport suspension plus on the cooper the same as the S standard suspension?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by beken
One thing I particularly like about MINI, unlike the parent company and most every other car company out there, if you don't get the absolutely top of the line model, your MINI does not look cheapened.
Have you looked at a base model 3 series vs say a 330? or a V6'd Mustang vs a Mustang GT?
Exactly!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dinandriver
Nice! So an MCS bumper fits an MC???
apparently yes, PM him and see how it did it.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Go with the MCS, its got my vote, once you hear the supercharger whine you won't want anything else
 
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowMiniS
Isn't the sport suspension plus on the cooper the same as the S standard suspension?

It's slightly confusing... I know the cabrios are a whole different problem. But, for the hardtops, the MCS comes standard with sports suspension plus. The Cooper comes standard with sports suspension. You can upgrade a Cooper to sports suspension plus and it will have the same suspension as an S.

The more suspension components you are likely to change after you buy the car, the less it makes sense to get SS+ on a Cooper. If you're just going to change the rear swaybar, I think it's a toss up on if the SS+ upgrade is worth it. If you go further than that (any of springs, dampers, front swaybar) it's not worth getting the SS+ IMHO.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by snid
It's slightly confusing... I know the cabrios are a whole different problem. But, for the hardtops, the MCS comes standard with sports suspension plus. The Cooper comes standard with sports suspension. You can upgrade a Cooper to sports suspension plus and it will have the same suspension as an S.

The more suspension components you are likely to change after you buy the car, the less it makes sense to get SS+ on a Cooper. If you're just going to change the rear swaybar, I think it's a toss up on if the SS+ upgrade is worth it. If you go further than that (any of springs, dampers, front swaybar) it's not worth getting the SS+ IMHO.
Upgrading any of those things knocks you out of H stock, so I'll get ssp and get a good alignment, then I'm good to go.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Technically if you order the car with SSP I don't see how it could kick you out of H stock. I mean the car came that way....
 
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Drove a PS/B MC for 3 years. Loved it, never even test drove an S. I agree that the MC looks much sleeker w/out the scoop. I put an aero grill on the stock front end and loved the look. The gas mileage rocked. That being said, I had the means and so now drive a full JCW CR/W MCS. I love the power, and the sound of the supercharger, and though I'll miss the mileage, it's still no SUV. When folks driving 500 hp rides still love their MINI's as much or more, kind of make the case for the little tyke, eh?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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I say MCS, but if you dont care about performance, you could add te Aero Kit, or the MCS bumpers... good luck!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Well, that's it, the dealer ordered the car today so MC it is!!! Sweet!!! As soon as she arives, I'll post some pics... Now I have to deal with the long 2-3 month wait!!! AHHHH!!!
 
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