R50/53 Manual or Auto AC?
Originally Posted by yumhaggis
I don't think it is,the wife & I just ordered her COOPER last sunday & the $300.00 will go towards floor mats & other such do-dads 
I'm going though an MSRP dealer, so the price of the car we built on the MINI USA site is the price we pay. Now to answer your question yes, yes they should, but I know they won't
we will get a big bag of swag as I did when I picked up my 04MCS.
we will get a big bag of swag as I did when I picked up my 04MCS.
Originally Posted by bamatt
swag = Mini stuff, Mini logo stuff, sometimes free, sometimes paid for, anything from a T-Shirt on up 

Hmm, seems like I'm the disenting opinion here. I currently have the Auto AC setup, sure it works fine and all but there's a certain fine grain control lost.
If I would do it over again I would probably have gotten the manual system. I see it the same sort of thing as the transmission, I like the added control of manual adjusting things as I see fit.
If I would do it over again I would probably have gotten the manual system. I see it the same sort of thing as the transmission, I like the added control of manual adjusting things as I see fit.
I was dead set against the auto system, until I felt the manual's controls (back in 03). Felt like ***** pushed through carboard, nothing connected, not a quality feel IMHO. Maybe they improved the feel.
The auto system can be very frustating, but can be run in a pretty good manual mode. And sometimes "set it and forget it" works out nice.
If you are geting the sunroof I would recommend the entire Premium Package for the value of the exta goodies and the resale.
regards,
Red
The auto system can be very frustating, but can be run in a pretty good manual mode. And sometimes "set it and forget it" works out nice.
If you are geting the sunroof I would recommend the entire Premium Package for the value of the exta goodies and the resale.
regards,
Red
Another vote for manual A/C controls here. All my 3 MINIs have had manual rotary ***** for the ventilation system and works great.
The only "plus" of the automatic A/C setup is that you get a "Charcoal" airfilter which you don't get when you order the manual controls.
Otherwise, I think the auto A/C is pretty annoying, but that's me!
The only "plus" of the automatic A/C setup is that you get a "Charcoal" airfilter which you don't get when you order the manual controls.
Otherwise, I think the auto A/C is pretty annoying, but that's me!
Interesting to note that the upcoming MINI MCS JCW GP comes with a Manual Transmission, Manual A/C controls and Halogen headlights!
Hint, hint.....
The GP is the anti-thesis of "Gotta load 'em up" crowd in NAM, LOL
Hint, hint.....
The GP is the anti-thesis of "Gotta load 'em up" crowd in NAM, LOL
That is interesting, because I have gotten the total opposite impression as you have
I think the auto A/C feels a little cheap but that is me.
As for resale, that's a myth! I work in a MINI dealer and I can tell you that some of these "Extras" that everyone is so hot about have very little resale value for themselves. The manufacturer gets full profit when you order them on a new car, but at time of resale, the car is what bring in the money, not the doo-dahs!
I think the auto A/C feels a little cheap but that is me.
As for resale, that's a myth! I work in a MINI dealer and I can tell you that some of these "Extras" that everyone is so hot about have very little resale value for themselves. The manufacturer gets full profit when you order them on a new car, but at time of resale, the car is what bring in the money, not the doo-dahs!
Originally Posted by C4
That is interesting, because I have gotten the total opposite impression as you have
I think the auto A/C feels a little cheap but that is me.
As for resale, that's a myth! I work in a MINI dealer and I can tell you that some of these "Extras" that everyone is so hot about have very little resale value for themselves. The manufacturer gets full profit when you order them on a new car, but at time of resale, the car is what bring in the money, not the doo-dahs!
I think the auto A/C feels a little cheap but that is me.
As for resale, that's a myth! I work in a MINI dealer and I can tell you that some of these "Extras" that everyone is so hot about have very little resale value for themselves. The manufacturer gets full profit when you order them on a new car, but at time of resale, the car is what bring in the money, not the doo-dahs!

So how does one work "in a Mini Dealer"? Must be cramped! :-)
regards,
Red
Haha, yeah a "MINI dealer" could get pretty cramped.
True, people tend to like load up cars and that's how most of the MINIs the dealer gets from the factory come so equipped. In fact we currently have a "Bare Bones" '06 MCS with no cruise, manual A/C controls, etc in Astro Black. Car retails for $21K but looks fantastic.
I personally subscribe to the "less is more" club.
True, people tend to like load up cars and that's how most of the MINIs the dealer gets from the factory come so equipped. In fact we currently have a "Bare Bones" '06 MCS with no cruise, manual A/C controls, etc in Astro Black. Car retails for $21K but looks fantastic.
I personally subscribe to the "less is more" club.
Originally Posted by C4
Haha, yeah a "MINI dealer" could get pretty cramped.
True, people tend to like load up cars and that's how most of the MINIs the dealer gets from the factory come so equipped. In fact we currently have a "Bare Bones" '06 MCS with no cruise, manual A/C controls, etc in Astro Black. Car retails for $21K but looks fantastic.
I personally subscribe to the "less is more" club.
True, people tend to like load up cars and that's how most of the MINIs the dealer gets from the factory come so equipped. In fact we currently have a "Bare Bones" '06 MCS with no cruise, manual A/C controls, etc in Astro Black. Car retails for $21K but looks fantastic.
I personally subscribe to the "less is more" club.
regards,
Red
Going off topic a bit C4, do all the cars come with that downtube mounted cupholder?
I hate the look, and may ask them to leave it in the trunk. Dealer says it comes with the car, and I will love it. My 03 looks clean w/o.
regards,
Red
I hate the look, and may ask them to leave it in the trunk. Dealer says it comes with the car, and I will love it. My 03 looks clean w/o.
regards,
Red
Originally Posted by Red
Going off topic a bit C4, do all the cars come with that downtube mounted cupholder?
I hate the look, and may ask them to leave it in the trunk. Dealer says it comes with the car, and I will love it. My 03 looks clean w/o.
regards,
Red
I hate the look, and may ask them to leave it in the trunk. Dealer says it comes with the car, and I will love it. My 03 looks clean w/o.
regards,
Red
But if you don't like it, tell your MA that you would like to have the cupholder removed before delivery (Only take out 2 screws and you are done). You can grab it and sell it here in NAM. It retails for around $50
Originally Posted by C4
Yes they all do.
But if you don't like it, tell your MA that you would like to have the cupholder removed before delivery (Only take out 2 screws and you are done). You can grab it and sell it here in NAM. It retails for around $50
But if you don't like it, tell your MA that you would like to have the cupholder removed before delivery (Only take out 2 screws and you are done). You can grab it and sell it here in NAM. It retails for around $50

regards,
Red
Originally Posted by mikem53
no motors or servos to control the vents and flaps for the temp and airflow.. = less weight
I've driven lots of cars with auto climate control - have not found one I like yet!
I am not gadget-averse...I 've got nav, rain-sensing wipers, auto-dimming mirrors...BUT - imho, nothing beats just turning a ****!
Simplicity works in this case. Only I know if I'm hot or cold, and I've no problem turning those dials.
I would not pay for this option, and would look for another car were I buying one used or off the dealer floor.
But - I guess that's why they call 'em options...to each his own.
Good luck!
I am not gadget-averse...I 've got nav, rain-sensing wipers, auto-dimming mirrors...BUT - imho, nothing beats just turning a ****!
Simplicity works in this case. Only I know if I'm hot or cold, and I've no problem turning those dials.
I would not pay for this option, and would look for another car were I buying one used or off the dealer floor.
But - I guess that's why they call 'em options...to each his own.
Good luck!
I hate the looks of the cupholder, but I have to admit that it *is* useful... in addition to bottles & cups, I've used it to hold my cell, sunglasses, iPod... The other cupholders don't really hold much of anything, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by mini-mine
I was wondering which is better, or if it's just a personal preference... I was planning on getting the auto AC since i've had problems with the manuals in the past, and i like the fact I can 'switch' to manual if i want. Also, being able to set the temp is great as opposed to fiddling with those damn dials... I also thinks it makes the inside better with the cool 'MINI wings' layout of the controls! Is it worth the extra $300?


Maybe I just saved more than one person 300$


mb
Originally Posted by MrT-Man
I hate the looks of the cupholder, but I have to admit that it *is* useful... in addition to bottles & cups, I've used it to hold my cell, sunglasses, iPod... The other cupholders don't really hold much of anything, unfortunately.
Well, he forgot. Now I use it as my key holder, my nieces use it as ipod holder, digital camera holder...
I rarely drink and drive, so have only used it as cup holder once.
My FAVORITE and regular use for it - drumroll please...
Nuvi holder!
This time around, I didn't order the factory nav. After serous research, settled on the Nuvi, and one of the factors that pushed me towards it over Magellan is that it fits PERFECTLY squeezed in the top ring of that cupholder!
I'll post another thread on Nav systems later - but I find that cupholder to be useful as a general purpose holder, and for the nuvi, the bonus is that it holds it up high enough to be nicely viewable. When I pull into the garage, the key lays nicely on the shelf below, and the Nuvi stays in place.
Perfect!


