R50/53 Is the S worth the Money?
I've been pretty happy with my MC (with sport suspension plus and sport seats) for the 8 months I've owned it, but I really miss the LSD and extra power that my Neon had (I sold it after I bought the MC). Half the reason I'd like to get an MCS is the LSD, the other half is the extra power. If I could have gotten an LSD with my MC I'd probably juet keep it, but I'm going to the dealer tomorrow to look into trading my MC in on an MCS. Unless they try to screw me over on my trade-in, I'll probably be ordering an MCS (with LSD) tomorrow.
-Keith
-Keith
Originally Posted by planeguy
No...Its not WORTH it.....I would not get the S again! the fun is in the car is handeling not the acceleraton. I too thought I wanted the power of the S
I am still looking for the person who is sorry they bought a regular MC who would trade me for my MCS and give me $3000 diffrence in cash
I am still looking for the person who is sorry they bought a regular MC who would trade me for my MCS and give me $3000 diffrence in cash
Originally Posted by flannelhippie
If you bought the car again is the s worth the money? I will be buying next year and Want to save some cash and go for the cooper, but I like power and want to go for the S, what are the pros and cons of the cooper?
I think if you have to ask yourself the question, the answer might be no.
I got the S because I wanted the most power MINI offered at the time. I am very glad I did. I don't honestly feel I would have been happy with less power. I am going through the same thought process as I am thinking about buying a boxster to go with the MINI. I am again leaning toward the letter "S".
I got the S because I wanted the most power MINI offered at the time. I am very glad I did. I don't honestly feel I would have been happy with less power. I am going through the same thought process as I am thinking about buying a boxster to go with the MINI. I am again leaning toward the letter "S".
I have had both and my advice is that if you dont care about power and it is a daily driver around town the MC is great, but if you do care about power (as you said you did), then if you get the MC you will always want the MCS and probably eventually trade up and lose a bit of money doing so.
Not just the S... the JCW... it is the best. tonight my wife complained that her head was thrown back and slammed into the headrest when I jumped on Pam at a fwy onramp......craptastic.... wow the JCW supercharger is the best... FUN FUN FUN
Yes, the S is worth the money.
The problem is, so is the Cooper.
What you get for the $3500 premium on the S is a bargain.
But the Cooper is a great car at the price.
Don't let the MCS folks make you feel bad about buying a Cooper!
The problem is, so is the Cooper.
What you get for the $3500 premium on the S is a bargain.
But the Cooper is a great car at the price.
Don't let the MCS folks make you feel bad about buying a Cooper!
Originally Posted by flannelhippie
If you bought the car again is the s worth the money? I will be buying next year and Want to save some cash and go for the cooper, but I like power and want to go for the S, what are the pros and cons of the cooper?
$3K difference is 16% increase in base price.
Look up the HP specs you will find your buying $56/one HP
THAT is a great deal from the factory.
I drove an MCS at my dealer today. It was faster than my MC, but not by a huge margin. Part of the difference was that I was going from a minimally optioned lightweight MC to a well-optioned MCS with S-lites and sunroof, and most other options. Personally I'd rather have the LSD on my MC rather than an MCS without LSD, but thankfully you can get the MCS with LSD. I wasn't overwhelmed with the additional power the MCS has over my MC though. To me it might have been worth it to get the MCS in the first place, but it isn't worth taking a loss on my MC to trade up to an MCS. I'm quite happy with my MC. Some people might like the supercharger whine, I found it rather annoying. If you think you might later regret not getting an MCS if you get an MC now, than go ahead and get the MCS now.
-Keith
-Keith
If power is what you want, then by all means the MCS is worth the extra cost. I agonized back and forth between the MC & MCS before I ordered my '06 MC. Several things factored into my decision. The things I found the most appealing about the Mini - light weight, great handling, fuel economy and terrific styling - were all there in the MC. Several things I didn't like - the runflats, the hood scoop and somewhat more weight, made the MCS a bit less attractive to me. I ended up with about the lightest weight Cooper you can get - 15 inch holeys, no sunroof, and my car accelerates quite well. I added a Mymini Touring exhaust (more for the sound than more performance) & an HSport 19mm rear bar for a bit more neutral handling, and I love my car. You'll enjoy your mini, whichever you choose - just drive 'em and decide. If you tend toward loving acceleration, then if you're on the fence and can afford the extra $$$, get the MCS. If you keep the car light, and you don't see a lot of difference, and value high mpg and the "less is more" aspects, get the MC.
Let us know what you end up with.
Let us know what you end up with.
Originally Posted by planeguy
No...Its not WORTH it.....I would not get the S again! the fun is in the car is handeling not the acceleraton. I too thought I wanted the power of the S
I am still looking for the person who is sorry they bought a regular MC who would trade me for my MCS and give me $3000 diffrence in cash
I am still looking for the person who is sorry they bought a regular MC who would trade me for my MCS and give me $3000 diffrence in cash
My .02 Cents
When I got my MCS in 2002 the price difference was so small that making the decison between the 120HP and the 162HP w/ supercharger was a no brainer.
I have driven both versions and I'll admit the basic Cooper is stilll fun to drive, but come on...a few dollars more gets you a car that really performs. I'd like to see Porsche upcharge about 2-3K for a 997s vs the "normal" 997. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
I have driven both versions and I'll admit the basic Cooper is stilll fun to drive, but come on...a few dollars more gets you a car that really performs. I'd like to see Porsche upcharge about 2-3K for a 997s vs the "normal" 997. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Originally Posted by Lobo6
I have driven both versions and I'll admit the basic Cooper is stilll fun to drive, but come on...a few dollars more gets you a car that really performs.
Awww crap! Nobody told me I bought a car that doesn't "really perform"!
Originally Posted by Lobo6
I'd like to see Porsche upcharge about 2-3K for a 997s vs the "normal" 997. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. 



Beside comparing apples to oranges, Porsche does "only" charge about $3K difference in terms of HP.$10K difference between 997 and 997S BUT, besides 30 more HP you also get ... Bigger brakes, Active suspension, HIDs, BIgger Wheels & Tires (and Porsche wheels aint cheap) ... so its IS about the same.




