R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 JCW CAI filter price concerns.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 07:28 AM
  #26  
jibeho's Avatar
jibeho
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
From: Grasonville, MD
I just ordered the JCW CAI, I figure I'll be ok for a while with the original filter, but I will be looking for a plan "B" come replacement time.
 
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 09:20 AM
  #27  
OldRick's Avatar
OldRick
6th Gear
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 4
I elected not to try to manufacture the adapter ring, but I did receive a note from one member who bought the K&N filter and concluded that the hose-clamp would squeeze the filter flange onto the airbox well enough to do without an adapter ring.

your mileage may vary, as they say...
 
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:15 AM
  #28  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
I am buying the K&N, I had such a great experience with it a long time ago on my 300ZX TT... the extra surface area has to improve performance and mileage, I would think. I will post my results. Thanks again, Rick!!
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:38 AM
  #29  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
I just got the filter, now what do I do? Will it fit into the stock JCW box (I hope!)? I will do some more searching, advice or references to threads appreciated. TIA!
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:46 AM
  #30  
OldRick's Avatar
OldRick
6th Gear
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 4
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=62783

Instructions for opening the JCW airbox can be found at http://motoringfile.com/2004/11/26/t...f_upgrade_kit/
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:48 AM
  #31  
MINIATIC's Avatar
MINIATIC
3rd Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn
http://myminiparts.com/proddetail.php?prod=ITGJC&cat=7 This is the way I am going once my paper filter(JCW CAI came with) is not longer good. Many of other Pete's customers use it know and only say good things about it. You can call him and He will share all the feedback he's got..I think this a really good option to consider..
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:52 AM
  #32  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
Thanks, Rick!!!
I'm going to do it now...

Originally Posted by OldRick
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:58 AM
  #33  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
woh, those instructions are how to install another... man I wish I were more mechanically inclined, I can fix and build computers all day but I am having trouble deciphering just how to open the airbox to simply install the filter... or maybe it really is not so simple...

EDIT

Nevermind, I figured it out, now I just have to get it back on and takeit out for a spin
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:19 PM
  #34  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
what's the trick on getting the hose clamp to close? It's got that wierd snapper dealy and I'd rather keep it stock than get a screw hose clamp (those I wish it was like that stock). Thanks in advance.

EDIT:

Found out, going to have to buy some tools - https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=44650
 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:37 PM
  #35  
jibeho's Avatar
jibeho
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
From: Grasonville, MD
Why the hose clamp phobia? Hell I'm all about simple and easy I don't want to have to read a 10 step procedure to install a freaking hose clamp. I just bought a 3" $1.5 automotive clamp and I'm done with it.
 
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 06:33 PM
  #36  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
wow, this thing is great, I could swear I could feel the difference, so easy to install too! $30 shipped and you have a notice-able difference?! What a deal!!
 
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 07:50 PM
  #37  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
Originally Posted by CARdiac
I was reading your posts about the filter replacement. How did you install the K&N? Did you bend the metal to create a ring or were you able to get away without it?

Any help is appreciated.
Just pushed it straight on and used needle-nose pliers to clip the factory funky-clip hose-clamp
 
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 07:53 PM
  #38  
b8b's Avatar
b8b
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: PHX
One thing that perplexes me is how small the actual air intake hole is on the JCW intake box... seems like that would be the real bottleneck, no?
 
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:30 PM
  #39  
Gromit801's Avatar
Gromit801
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 11,600
Likes: 1
From: West French Camp, CA
Originally Posted by eVal
Hmm, is the cost really that alarming? It doesn't seem like that huge an expense to spend $80 on a maintanence item that does something as important as an air filter every couple of years (once a year I suppose if you drive a lot of miles and/or live in a very dusty/dirty area). Its like motor oil or tires IMHO, important consumables worth the cost for what you get from it. Sure I can see that it seems like a lot for what it is but its not hundreds of dollars and, after all, it is a specialized custom item for an optional add-on created for a limited market. I guess I'm just surprised that considering all the random stuff people spend extra money on I so often see people so outraged over the infrequent 80 bux for the JCW air filter.

Anyway, good job on the K&N, enjoy
Well, look at it like this: When I replace the AF, it's usually in conjunction with doing a tune-up. AF, FF, Plugs, etc. None of that is cheap, so if one can drop your total tune-up costs by going with a K&N reuseable AF, so be it!
 
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 05:11 PM
  #40  
CARdiac's Avatar
CARdiac
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
From: Near Gaithersburg, MD
Originally Posted by b8b
Just pushed it straight on and used needle-nose pliers to clip the factory funky-clip hose-clamp
I meant to ask, did you buy the 3130 (cone)?
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:58 PM
  #41  
CARdiac's Avatar
CARdiac
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
From: Near Gaithersburg, MD
Ok, I bought 2 3130 for $50 (free shipping and a $5 off special). That is the best price I have ever paid for a K&N anything! I installed mine Wednesday night and it was VERY easy! I was so impressed with the better throttle response and better engine sound that I installed my wife's the next night. I loved her response: "It feels peppier, but I was expecting it to sound a little louder..... no you don't understand I WAS EXPECTING IT TO SOUND LOUDER"

Love the added "pep" and the fact that two filters were half the proce of one OEM paper filter!
 
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:45 AM
  #42  
Mini Fireman's Avatar
Mini Fireman
5th Gear
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 867
Likes: 0
From: Locked away
JCW Airbox Flap Removal?

Has anybody else removed the flap in their JCW CAI so that it is open all of the time? I've got mine removed and installed a ITG replacement filter.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:51 PM
  #43  
OldRick's Avatar
OldRick
6th Gear
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,421
Likes: 4
New JCW Filter available

Mini-Madness has announced a new filter for the JCW airbox. Cleanable K&N-type velocity stack design - looks great.
http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=272
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:28 PM
  #44  
CARdiac's Avatar
CARdiac
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
From: Near Gaithersburg, MD
Yeah I saw that, but I bought 2 filters for our cars for $50.... still half of the cost.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 02:57 AM
  #45  
jibeho's Avatar
jibeho
Thread Starter
|
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
From: Grasonville, MD
Originally Posted by CARdiac
Yeah I saw that, but I bought 2 filters for our cars for $50.... still half of the cost.
Where did you get the $50 ones?
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:54 AM
  #46  
CARdiac's Avatar
CARdiac
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
From: Near Gaithersburg, MD
Originally Posted by jibeho
Where did you get the $50 ones?
https://www.ajusa.com


Part Number Product Description Qty Unit Price Price
KNF RU-3130 Item: Universal Rubber FilterFits: 2006 MINI Cooper S 1.6L L4 F/I 1 $27.50 $27.50
KNF RU-3130 Item: Universal Rubber FilterFits: 2006 MINI Cooper S 1.6L L4 F/I 1 $27.50 $27.50

PRO summer Item: ADD $45 TO UNLOCK MORE SAVINGS $-5.00

Sub Total $50.00
CA Sales Tax $0.00
Shipping $0.00

Total $50.00
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:01 AM
  #47  
Liquid's Avatar
Liquid
4th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 522
Likes: 12
From: Makawao, HI
SO how's the sound with this new setup? Louder?
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:59 AM
  #48  
CARdiac's Avatar
CARdiac
5th Gear
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
From: Near Gaithersburg, MD
Originally Posted by Liquid
SO how's the sound with this new setup? Louder?
A little, but not much. Nice throttle response!
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:42 AM
  #49  
willum's Avatar
willum
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 764
Likes: 0
From: Modesto, Calif.
I installed mine last week. Very easy, except for the OEM clamp on the down tube. I also removed the flap but left the housing intact. My feeling was that moisture and dirt would get into the filter more easily. Not much of an increase in noise and my "butt" dyno sez that it has a wee bit more throttle response.
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 03:15 PM
  #50  
fritznw's Avatar
fritznw
2nd Gear
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: Pacific Northwest
Originally Posted by OldRick
Mini-Madness has announced a new filter for the JCW airbox. Cleanable K&N-type velocity stack design - looks great.
http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=272
I had Mini-Madness install this filter for me and do the airbox flapper modification seeing as how I work right around the corner from George's shop. What a difference. If you check out the link above, the testimonial that you can read there is mine. I meant every word, it is really impressive the performance gain you can feel by improving the airflow with this kit. I've had other sports cars but the MCS w/JCW is the first I've had that responds so positively by just replacing the chincy paper filter with the high-airflow K&N style filter. I definitely recommend this product. Mini-Madness rocks!!!

Dudley
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:43 PM.