R50/53 Variable Speed Wipers?
#1
Variable Speed Wipers?
Is there any option that converts the standard wiper delay to something more variable? Driving in a slight rain the delay wipers work fine. There are times when more frequent sweeps from the wipers are needed but not enought to need low speed. I have never seen this type of delayed wipers on any other car that I have owned, why does Mini choose to do this?
#3
years ago, my '78 Fiesta had only non-variable intermittant both the front wipers and rear wiper...I purchased 2 separate variable intermittant devices for front and rear...worked great and came with easy wiring diagrams for which wires to splice into....but the MINI's wipers are so inter-linked with other electronics and speed sensing, etc that I would not atempt it even if they still make these sort of devices
#4
The standard wipers in the MINI are "speed sensitive" not to be confused with the optional "Rain sensing" wipers that use an infrared sensor in the windshield to activate them as soon as water dopplets beging to hit the glass.
This is the reason why MINI did not include more variable *manual* speed "settings" for the wipers in intermittent mode. The computer automatically adjust the rate of sweep according to vehicle speed. The faster you go, the intermittent sweep rate is diminished (Faster) and the slower you go, the sweep rate is increased in between (Slower).
Most people, seems to me, don't notice this but this is a standard feature in all MINIs. The "Rain sensing option" works pretty much the same as the standard wipers, with the exception, that the computer/sensor in the windshield turns the wipers on and off automatically and automatically adjust wiper sweep rate even further according to vehicle speed and amount of rain hitting the glass.
Hope this helps!
This is the reason why MINI did not include more variable *manual* speed "settings" for the wipers in intermittent mode. The computer automatically adjust the rate of sweep according to vehicle speed. The faster you go, the intermittent sweep rate is diminished (Faster) and the slower you go, the sweep rate is increased in between (Slower).
Most people, seems to me, don't notice this but this is a standard feature in all MINIs. The "Rain sensing option" works pretty much the same as the standard wipers, with the exception, that the computer/sensor in the windshield turns the wipers on and off automatically and automatically adjust wiper sweep rate even further according to vehicle speed and amount of rain hitting the glass.
Hope this helps!
#5
#6
I was at first impressed by the speed sensing wipers, but somewhere down the line after a software update, the wipers now don't stop or slow until you are fully stopped; it used to be around 10mph. I find more often they are annoyingly going faster than I want them to be and I have to turn them off and do them manually. I wish there was more manual control, and it is the only feature I regret not purchasing with my mini, the rain sensing wipers, because they have a manual sensitivity adjustment.
I would love to find a way to retrofit that or another adjustment so I can adjust the wiper delay times more accurately.
I know I have seen an add-on for (older?) BMWs but I doubt it would work.
I would love to find a way to retrofit that or another adjustment so I can adjust the wiper delay times more accurately.
I know I have seen an add-on for (older?) BMWs but I doubt it would work.
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#9
The only reason I didn't opt for the rain sensing wipers is that I had read many posts about problems with them. I too was very disappointed when I found that the intermittent wipers only have one speed. Hec my el cheapo 1996 Chevy Cavalier had adjustable intermittent wipers as most all cars do now. I had not seen single speed intermittent sicne the introduction of intermittent a gazillion years ago . I was really surprised (& irritated) that my Mini wipers are single speed intermittent.
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#11
Originally Posted by Bilbo-Baggins
Really, how difficult is it to just push down on the stalk when you want a wipe?
#12
#13
Originally Posted by eVal
Sadly they did not make the rain sensing as nice as in the BMWs with the speed adjuster so I didn't see the need for it myself considering the propensity for windshield issues on the MINI.
the auto dimmig rear view mirror, were options I did not really want when I
got my car. Having lived with them for almost 3 years now I consider them
to be indispensible. When I replace my car I will be sure the next one has
them also.
#14
Originally Posted by jwardell
Because if you need to do it every 10-15 seconds, it is annoying and potentially dangerous. But you need to if you don't want your wipers going every 3 seconds as they normally do.
Originally Posted by petecrosby
On the contrary, my rain sensing wipers work quite well. They, along with
the auto dimmig rear view mirror, were options I did not really want when I
got my car. Having lived with them for almost 3 years now I consider them
to be indispensible. When I replace my car I will be sure the next one has
them also.
the auto dimmig rear view mirror, were options I did not really want when I
got my car. Having lived with them for almost 3 years now I consider them
to be indispensible. When I replace my car I will be sure the next one has
them also.
#15
Your wipers are not "1 speed" intermittent only.
Pls re-read my previous post
Your intermittent wipe function has multiple speeds but instead of being controlled manually via the wiper stalk switch, these are controlled via the BC1 computer. The intermittent wipe frequency is adjusted according to VEHICLE SPEED.
So believe it or not, your MINI has way more sophisticated wipers than your cheapo Chevy Cavalier.
Pls re-read my previous post
Your intermittent wipe function has multiple speeds but instead of being controlled manually via the wiper stalk switch, these are controlled via the BC1 computer. The intermittent wipe frequency is adjusted according to VEHICLE SPEED.
So believe it or not, your MINI has way more sophisticated wipers than your cheapo Chevy Cavalier.
Originally Posted by bamatt
The only reason I didn't opt for the rain sensing wipers is that I had read many posts about problems with them. I too was very disappointed when I found that the intermittent wipers only have one speed. Hec my el cheapo 1996 Chevy Cavalier had adjustable intermittent wipers as most all cars do now. I had not seen single speed intermittent sicne the introduction of intermittent a gazillion years ago . I was really surprised (& irritated) that my Mini wipers are single speed intermittent.
#16
Originally Posted by petecrosby
On the contrary, my rain sensing wipers work quite well. They, along with
the auto dimmig rear view mirror, were options I did not really want when I
got my car. Having lived with them for almost 3 years now I consider them
to be indispensible. When I replace my car I will be sure the next one has
them also.
the auto dimmig rear view mirror, were options I did not really want when I
got my car. Having lived with them for almost 3 years now I consider them
to be indispensible. When I replace my car I will be sure the next one has
them also.
Wiper envy?
#17
Originally Posted by jwardell
I was at first impressed by the speed sensing wipers, but somewhere down the line after a software update, the wipers now don't stop or slow until you are fully stopped; it used to be around 10mph. I find more often they are annoyingly going faster than I want them to be and I have to turn them off and do them manually. I wish there was more manual control, and it is the only feature I regret not purchasing with my mini, the rain sensing wipers, because they have a manual sensitivity adjustment.
I would love to find a way to retrofit that or another adjustment so I can adjust the wiper delay times more accurately.
I know I have seen an add-on for (older?) BMWs but I doubt it would work.
I would love to find a way to retrofit that or another adjustment so I can adjust the wiper delay times more accurately.
I know I have seen an add-on for (older?) BMWs but I doubt it would work.
I believe (someone correct me if I am wrong) the only way to further "fine tune" the speed sesitivity of your wipers is via access menus from the GT-1 service computer hooked up to your car at your MINI dealership.
I don't think there is any other way to access these BC1 comouter menus.
#18
Originally Posted by C4
Your wipers are not "1 speed" intermittent only.
Pls re-read my previous post
Your intermittent wipe function has multiple speeds but instead of being controlled manually via the wiper stalk switch, these are controlled via the BC1 computer. The intermittent wipe frequency is adjusted according to VEHICLE SPEED.
So believe it or not, your MINI has way more sophisticated wipers than your cheapo Chevy Cavalier.
Pls re-read my previous post
Your intermittent wipe function has multiple speeds but instead of being controlled manually via the wiper stalk switch, these are controlled via the BC1 computer. The intermittent wipe frequency is adjusted according to VEHICLE SPEED.
So believe it or not, your MINI has way more sophisticated wipers than your cheapo Chevy Cavalier.
As to the rain sensing wipers, I am very glad I did not get them also since my windshield has cracked & must be replaced after only owning the car for a year. I really wanted the auto-dim mirror but unfortunately Mini would not spilt it out of the wiper/mirror package.
#21
My rain sensing wipers are great until it's snowy and the roads are salty. the salt on the windshield screws things up for them I've noticed, so road spray conditions can be tough to match up. In the rain they seem to work beautifully as well as in wet snow or snow w/out salty road spray.
#22
OK, so if the viariable intermittent wipers are speed sensitive what is the speed at which they would be in constant motion?
60 mph = 1 swipe every three seconds
X mph = 1 swipe every 0 seconds
Theoretical of course I am sure the speed would be well beyond the actuall capacity of the car, just always wondered what speed it would take to get them to not stop.
60 mph = 1 swipe every three seconds
X mph = 1 swipe every 0 seconds
Theoretical of course I am sure the speed would be well beyond the actuall capacity of the car, just always wondered what speed it would take to get them to not stop.
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