Hi all
I"m a new member to the site.
I hear that there is going to be a MINI diesel coming to Europe in 2003.. powered by a 1.4 liter toyota diesel...(75hp) does anyone have more information on this? And if it's going to come to the U.S :smile:

I don't know but I can probably find out (I am surrounded by alot of people that know alot about cars....especially Volkswagens, but I can most likely get Mini info too).

>>I don't know but I can probably find out (I am surrounded by alot of people that know alot about cars....especially Volkswagens, but I can most likely get Mini info too).
thanks alot that would be great.. I really hope that they do.. so that I can sell my diesel new beetle.. and get the MINI

Here is what I have dug up....if other european manufacturers are anything to go by, (zB. volkswagen, bmw, etc.) many models, like diesels, aren't of much interest to most of the us market and are not imported simply because they won't sell well enough to pay for themselves (VW has taken years to sell a decent number of TDI's...you see more of them now but they are still just a drop in a bucket compared to gas engine models)...if the diesel doesn't come out in europe until 2003, it will probably be at least another year or two before it does well enough to be sold over here....bottom line...if you like your Beetle because of the awesome gas mileage just hold onto it for awhile...and I know the gas mileage is great....my neighbor is a travelling salesman and drives a TDI Golf.....he fills up his tank once every two weeks.... :smile:

I would get a Mini diesel at the drop of a hat. That would be the ultimate car for me.

I think the magazine article that I saw it in, was Top Gear. They basically had the same info with the 1.4L Toyota built engine in Japan, and adding that there's going to be a convertible model proceeding the diesel model. That's about all I heard.

>>I think the magazine article that I saw it in, was Top Gear. They basically had the same info with the 1.4L Toyota built engine in Japan, and adding that there's going to be a convertible model proceeding the diesel model. That's about all I heard.
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If you could post that article ... may god bless you.. thanks

O I also read that the engine that is going to be used in the diesel MINI the(1.4 L 75hp Turbo diesel) Is being used in the Toyota Yaris.. (a small compact car about the size of the Mini) and it's averaging 64mpg.... that would be so cool to get 64 mpg :smile: :smile:

But will it have the torque and pickup to drive on our roads. I currently own a 2000 tdi golf and the power in it is great. 115hp, 150pounds torque. I'm guessing if the toyota engine is 75hp, and it is a turbo, it will have about 110lbs torque. Which is what the MINI has, but will it be useable. I hope so, I'm going to miss the 52mpg I'm getting now with my TDI. I'll be watching for the British reveiws.

wainair
The current specifications for the Yaris toyota diesel(same engine that is going to be used in the MINI diesel) Is that it is a Turbo-charged diesel engine. with again 75 hp.. and 123 lbs/torque... I have a Newbeetle TDI with 90hp it works for me.. and remember the MINI diesel might have less hp . But it's also 400 pounds lighter then the NB... Also the 1.4 liter toyota engine is lighter then the current VW diesel engine.....
Thats what I suspect now.
Thanks for posting
I just hope it comes to the U.S

That would be great if it did......but as I said before, if trends hold true it will probably not be until 2004-2005.

By 2004, they're going to be re-designing the mini, aren't they? They may have a few NEW engines to choose from!

I like my diesel, I'd buy another one. The mileage is great, the cost per litre is great. If they do eventually bring it here I just hope they done lower the proformance of the engine(X/ does that now). I think a Diesel MINI is a great idea. It would be interesting to see if they could pass Califoria emition standards, I hope so.

>>By 2004, they're going to be re-designing the mini, aren't they? They may have a few NEW engines to choose from!


what there going to re-design the MINI ... I don't think so.. is took them over 40 years to come out with a new one.. and there just going to change it after 2 years.... I don't think so

It was made in 2000... I think BMW has the mini planned to be re-done every 6-7 years, so I guess 2006, or 2007. Also, the reason it took 40 years to re-design was that no effort was put into it! There were several different owners of the MINI name, and BMW is the first to bring back the legend!

>>>>I think the magazine article that I saw it in, was Top Gear. They basically had the same info with the 1.4L Toyota built engine in Japan, and adding that there's going to be a convertible model proceeding the diesel model. That's about all I heard.
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>>If you could post that article ... may god bless you.. thanks
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The article is from Top Gear magazine, on page 17 of the July'02 edition. It's a UK based mag with a couple of write-ups on the Mini's as well(both models)in that edition. The article in question is very small with pics of three MINI's in it. All the info in the article has been covered in this post, actually. There really isn't anything more stated in the mag. Maybe there's more on the internet someplace.

>>By 2004, they're going to be re-designing the mini, aren't they? They may have a few NEW engines to choose from!

The BMW deal with Chryster (I can't make that spelling look correct tonight) for the current pentagon engine does not expire until 2007. BMW is not pleased with this arrangement, as since it was signed, Chrystler has merged with Daimler/Benz, BMWs Arch-rival. THis means that the current engine will be in the MINI until 2007. HOWEVER, it could also mean that alternative powerplants could start showing themselves even earlier than normal in an effort to displace that powerplant.

Interesting. The plot thickens. But I don't think that they'll do any major redesigning for a few/couple years. Most manufacturers usually give a vehicle 2-3 years until majorly revamping it. So I'm thinking maybe the 2004-2005 estimates could be correct.
Then if new model is more superior than current Cooper'S' I just may be tempted to make the one I'm a month away from acquiring, my winter beater, and saddle myself into the higher output version for all the other seasons.