R50/53 I need help educating our MA.
I need help educating our MA.
I asked our MA to send me a list of programable features that we can activate/deactivate. What I got was a list of four features.
#1 Daytime driving lights.
#2 Pathway lightning.
#3 Central/automatic locking.
#4 Selective central unlocking.
He claims these are the only features the dealer can access. Any other features can only be done at the factory.
I know many of you have had other features activated so I need some help. I tried various searches but came up empty. Can someone post a list of all available features? Or post what you have had done and I will compile a list for everyone to use.
One other claim our MA made was that they can no longer determine which boat our car is on.
#1 Daytime driving lights.
#2 Pathway lightning.
#3 Central/automatic locking.
#4 Selective central unlocking.
He claims these are the only features the dealer can access. Any other features can only be done at the factory.
I know many of you have had other features activated so I need some help. I tried various searches but came up empty. Can someone post a list of all available features? Or post what you have had done and I will compile a list for everyone to use.
One other claim our MA made was that they can no longer determine which boat our car is on.
I can email you an excel file with all the options in a spreadsheet format. Makes it easy to print out and highlight your preferences and hand it to the tech.
Last edited by Eric_Rowland; Feb 15, 2005 at 09:09 AM. Reason: formatting!
Originally Posted by MiniMe05
One other claim our MA made was that they can no longer determine which boat our car is on.
Go to http://schedule.2wglobal.com/AppTracking/cargoTrack.do
Click on "Auto cargo". Enter the VIN, and click on Track. It will display the Ship, call sign, and tracking history. The VIN can be obtained from the Miniusa owner's lounge area.
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Originally Posted by Nuvolari
Assuming that your car is on a Wallenius Wilhelmsen boat:
Go to http://schedule.2wglobal.com/AppTracking/cargoTrack.do
Click on "Auto cargo". Enter the VIN, and click on Track. It will display the Ship, call sign, and tracking history. The VIN can be obtained from the Miniusa owner's lounge area.
Go to http://schedule.2wglobal.com/AppTracking/cargoTrack.do
Click on "Auto cargo". Enter the VIN, and click on Track. It will display the Ship, call sign, and tracking history. The VIN can be obtained from the Miniusa owner's lounge area.
I appreciate everyone's effort.
One more programming question. Is it possible to activate options not yet on the car? IE rear fog light. I have a rear fog light setup on order but plan to install it myself. Hoping to have the dealer program it to active so I don't have to go back later.
Originally Posted by MiniMe05
Must not be on that boat. My VIN had no information available. The boat was supposed to hit LA sometime between 2/12 & today 2/15. My MA is no help. He claims that Mini no longer gives them access to the shipping info. Seems that every other dealer in the country can get it except Ramussen.
I appreciate everyone's effort.
One more programming question. Is it possible to activate options not yet on the car? IE rear fog light. I have a rear fog light setup on order but plan to install it myself. Hoping to have the dealer program it to active so I don't have to go back later.
I appreciate everyone's effort.
One more programming question. Is it possible to activate options not yet on the car? IE rear fog light. I have a rear fog light setup on order but plan to install it myself. Hoping to have the dealer program it to active so I don't have to go back later.
Originally Posted by MandaBoo
I don' think that isn't really an "activatable" option. From what others have said, the '05's are pretty much all wired up but they need the lights and the toggle switch. You may seriously think about just paying the $100 for the factory rear fogs as getting a new toggle swich panel may cost you more than that.
It appears that cars being shipped to Hueneme(?) may come on different carriers, and they don't apparently have a website to allow tracking of their cargo, so your MA is apparently correct: he can't help you.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...hlight=January
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...hlight=January
Originally Posted by MandaBoo
I don' think that isn't really an "activatable" option. From what others have said, the '05's are pretty much all wired up but they need the lights and the toggle switch. You may seriously think about just paying the $100 for the factory rear fogs as getting a new toggle swich panel may cost you more than that.
Switch panel: $63.50
Rear fog light: $16.15
Connector housing: $1.85
Terminal: $.25
When I picked up my used '04 I negotiated the full rack (loose), and for them to activate the rear fog (I did the rack install myself.) It took three tries, as they kept saying that it was not possible to do the programming before the switch was in the car.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.
Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
When I picked up my used '04 I negotiated the full rack (loose), and for them to activate the rear fog (I did the rack install myself.) It took three tries, as they kept saying that it was not possible to do the programming before the switch was in the car.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.

Again just a theory from somebody without an EE degree who hasn't dissasembled a toggle switch bank...
I've actually disassembled a few. When you do, you'll see a white elastomeric (soft plastic) pad. There are no physical connections. The toggles push on the pad to (I assume) close the contact for the switch, or at least tell the body computer to turn the switch on.
All the toggle racks (that I've seen) have 18 pins in the back - doesn't matter if they have ASC/DSC, or front or rear fogs.
I could reason that the DME does a 'system check' to make sure the circuit is there, but since there is nothing different 'plugged in' to complete the circuit, that doesn't fly. I'm no EE, but I follow logic quite well.
I'm pretty sure the MAs were just talking out of their ***. The only exception would be the EARLY '05 cars that didn't come with the WIRING for the rear fog. Even in that case, I can't see why you couldn't tell the computer to send power through the harness when the switch (that isn't there yet) closes the contact.
All the toggle racks (that I've seen) have 18 pins in the back - doesn't matter if they have ASC/DSC, or front or rear fogs.
I could reason that the DME does a 'system check' to make sure the circuit is there, but since there is nothing different 'plugged in' to complete the circuit, that doesn't fly. I'm no EE, but I follow logic quite well.
I'm pretty sure the MAs were just talking out of their ***. The only exception would be the EARLY '05 cars that didn't come with the WIRING for the rear fog. Even in that case, I can't see why you couldn't tell the computer to send power through the harness when the switch (that isn't there yet) closes the contact.
Originally Posted by OSU MCS
MiniMe05: Could you educate our MA....that way he will know what is up when I pick up my car, hopefully next week.
Where did you order the rear fog light pieces?
Where did you order the rear fog light pieces?
Originally Posted by MiniMe05
Must not be on that boat. My VIN had no information available. The boat was supposed to hit LA sometime between 2/12 & today 2/15. My MA is no help. He claims that Mini no longer gives them access to the shipping info. Seems that every other dealer in the country can get it except Ramussen.
I appreciate everyone's effort.
One more programming question. Is it possible to activate options not yet on the car? IE rear fog light. I have a rear fog light setup on order but plan to install it myself. Hoping to have the dealer program it to active so I don't have to go back later.
I appreciate everyone's effort.
One more programming question. Is it possible to activate options not yet on the car? IE rear fog light. I have a rear fog light setup on order but plan to install it myself. Hoping to have the dealer program it to active so I don't have to go back later.
) so we are back to square 1 wondering about its scheduled stop in Cal.
Good point about programming for future installs - I'd love to be set for the alarm when it comes in in March since I live in Northern Cal and will not be able to bring it back to Southbay...
Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
I've actually disassembled a few. When you do, you'll see a white elastomeric (soft plastic) pad. There are no physical connections. The toggles push on the pad to (I assume) close the contact for the switch, or at least tell the body computer to turn the switch on.
All the toggle racks (that I've seen) have 18 pins in the back - doesn't matter if they have ASC/DSC, or front or rear fogs.
I could reason that the DME does a 'system check' to make sure the circuit is there, but since there is nothing different 'plugged in' to complete the circuit, that doesn't fly. I'm no EE, but I follow logic quite well.
I'm pretty sure the MAs were just talking out of their ***. The only exception would be the EARLY '05 cars that didn't come with the WIRING for the rear fog. Even in that case, I can't see why you couldn't tell the computer to send power through the harness when the switch (that isn't there yet) closes the contact.
All the toggle racks (that I've seen) have 18 pins in the back - doesn't matter if they have ASC/DSC, or front or rear fogs.
I could reason that the DME does a 'system check' to make sure the circuit is there, but since there is nothing different 'plugged in' to complete the circuit, that doesn't fly. I'm no EE, but I follow logic quite well.
I'm pretty sure the MAs were just talking out of their ***. The only exception would be the EARLY '05 cars that didn't come with the WIRING for the rear fog. Even in that case, I can't see why you couldn't tell the computer to send power through the harness when the switch (that isn't there yet) closes the contact.
Not trying to argue, just trying to learn....
No worries - there are a series of six pairs of raised white 'bumps' on the elastomeric (I love that word) pad. Each represents the 'on' and 'off' for each switch. The toggle rocks and presses a little white spacer that in turn presses on the pad.
I know there are pics out there somewhere, but I can't seem to find any. I'll see if I can take a pic tonight and post it here.
I know there are pics out there somewhere, but I can't seem to find any. I'll see if I can take a pic tonight and post it here.
my ma at classic "Dave" Didn't even know about the fog light being available in the aftermarket. I had to send him the pdf from mini found over at mini 2. It's really bad to know more than your salesperson
MiniMe,
I'd love to know your final resolution on the programming options. Did they agree with you? I've ordered a MINI through Rasmussen and would like to be prepared if they are gonna give me the business!!! As a side point, which MA are you using up at Rasmussen?
I'd love to know your final resolution on the programming options. Did they agree with you? I've ordered a MINI through Rasmussen and would like to be prepared if they are gonna give me the business!!! As a side point, which MA are you using up at Rasmussen?
Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
When I picked up my used '04 I negotiated the full rack (loose), and for them to activate the rear fog (I did the rack install myself.) It took three tries, as they kept saying that it was not possible to do the programming before the switch was in the car.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.
They finally came around when I asked for the tech to explain to me how the car would know if there was an switch on the other side of the elastomeric pad... Even at that point they said that it could be done in an '04, but not an '05.

But my guess is the problem is not that the switch isn't there (which, as you say, is on the other side of an elastomeric pad), but that the light (which is hardwired) isn't there. The light is there on the 04s and previous models.
This is a guess, remember. But what might happen is they try to program the computer to activate the fog light circuit, and the computer looks and sees there's no light, so it doesn't happen.






