R50/53 ECU-tuned cars will now automatically flunk California smog testing
How do you think it's not ? I'm asking what and why it would flunk there when it passes else where who too have strict standards....
I'm asking how are they gonna tell the programming is altered ??? When they brought my cars ecu up it didn't look any different than any others. How do they see it has a performance tune in it ? Does it detect differences in like injector sizes and actually look at the tune file and compare it to a stock tune file ? Because if that's the case how would a early jcw r53 EVER pass Cali emissions? I was speaking with the guy that did my emissions and after it passed I was like " lol awesome it has this mod....." and we talked for awhile and from what I could tell ALOT of the test is just based off the inspector and what they say , I know the govt likes to scare its citizens into line so I too wanna know EXACTLY what they can see in the program to flunk it ecu wise. Because a visual inspection can be bullshitted around.
I'm asking how are they gonna tell the programming is altered ??? When they brought my cars ecu up it didn't look any different than any others. How do they see it has a performance tune in it ? Does it detect differences in like injector sizes and actually look at the tune file and compare it to a stock tune file ? Because if that's the case how would a early jcw r53 EVER pass Cali emissions? I was speaking with the guy that did my emissions and after it passed I was like " lol awesome it has this mod....." and we talked for awhile and from what I could tell ALOT of the test is just based off the inspector and what they say , I know the govt likes to scare its citizens into line so I too wanna know EXACTLY what they can see in the program to flunk it ecu wise. Because a visual inspection can be bullshitted around.
Because you're talking about how it's done in WI. This thread is about CA
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Because their system has a valid checksum for that year listed
He passed your car because it was legal in your State.
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I think it will would just fine but as others mentioned IF they do a visual inspection I'm not sure but even if they say " hey that's changed thats changed " but your car still passes why could you not tell them there just aftermarket parts ? Your not required to strictly use oem parts just not performance altering ones , so who's to say they know AND can prove the difference or will even bother.
Since there really are zero records of Official dealer installed kits tied to a VIN …
is it possible to re-flash an MCS ECU with the factory JCW mapping (tune) … and have it
pass Cali smog ?
A dealer installed 210 JCW ‘kit’ had the head, intake, exhaust, 11% pulley and 380cc injectors and had the dealer re-flash the ECU … but, there is zero record of that ‘kit’ tied to the VIN …
Would I be correct in assuming that if I were to do that on my own … that someone in the business could re-flash my ECU with a factoy Mini JCW map, that it would pass ?
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is it possible to re-flash an MCS ECU with the factory JCW mapping (tune) … and have it
pass Cali smog ?
A dealer installed 210 JCW ‘kit’ had the head, intake, exhaust, 11% pulley and 380cc injectors and had the dealer re-flash the ECU … but, there is zero record of that ‘kit’ tied to the VIN …
Would I be correct in assuming that if I were to do that on my own … that someone in the business could re-flash my ECU with a factoy Mini JCW map, that it would pass ?
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My plan is the opposite, but you could get a set of 380cc (if yours has something else) and Mr Blah’s jcw tuned ecu. The tune can handle header and cam so you don’t have to switch those back (if you have those). Drop in the ecu and 380cc just for smog time.
Me, I’ll use Mr blah’s ecu for mods and tuning (adrian) and use my stock ecu and 330cc for smog. The cam and header with oem cat will be hidden anyway. I have a cai in oem airbox. Pulley is the only part that hopefully the tech doesn’t see.
just my 2 cents and sharing what I would do if I were already tuned as wells as sharing my plans.
Rather than starting another thread, I'll add to this one.
I'm now in the same boat. Living in CA, my '05 Sa was last registered in Nevada (lived there 2019-2020), so currently not registered here. Mods currently include RMW's shorty header, 450cc injectors, 15% pulley, RMW dominator cam, and a Milltek cat. Tuned, of course. Airbox is OEM with a KN drop-in.
I'm looking at the following:
- Strip everything off and reflash the tune back to stock
- Swap ecu and tuning ala My Blah/Adrian
- South Dakota registration (still trying find out about insuring the vehicle after that)
- Nevada registration (still have friends there where I could possibly set up a seasonal residency)
- Utah registration (a friend just did this, but he has family (and an address) in Utah)
I'm willing to take it back to stock, as I still just love driving the car, but it would be nice if I could keep the extra power.
Does anyone else have out-of-CA registration experience with your CA-based vehicle? Is it worth jumping through the extra hoops for this?
I'm now in the same boat. Living in CA, my '05 Sa was last registered in Nevada (lived there 2019-2020), so currently not registered here. Mods currently include RMW's shorty header, 450cc injectors, 15% pulley, RMW dominator cam, and a Milltek cat. Tuned, of course. Airbox is OEM with a KN drop-in.
I'm looking at the following:
- Strip everything off and reflash the tune back to stock
- Swap ecu and tuning ala My Blah/Adrian
- South Dakota registration (still trying find out about insuring the vehicle after that)
- Nevada registration (still have friends there where I could possibly set up a seasonal residency)
- Utah registration (a friend just did this, but he has family (and an address) in Utah)
I'm willing to take it back to stock, as I still just love driving the car, but it would be nice if I could keep the extra power.
Does anyone else have out-of-CA registration experience with your CA-based vehicle? Is it worth jumping through the extra hoops for this?
A dominator cam is not very aggressive you can probably get that to pass emissions easily with the stock tune you might need to get some 380s and a JCW tune at worst. It's so easy to change injectors on this car
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