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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniManAdam
Mine was using a decent amount of oil too. It has 204k miles and it modded . I put in a new pcv valve and it has made a huge change in oil consumption . It now has needed none and I'm 2.5k into this oil change . I also sealed up a few vacuum leaks and installed an oil catch can ,which has been catching some blow by. 2.5k miles I had a measurable amount in it.
Nice, I'll likely eventually add an oil catch can to clean up the intake system a bit. The last time I pulled the intercooler there was almost no oil in the intake tract at all so I haven't made it a priority just yet. What kind/brand/weight of oil are you using?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 09:30 PM
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Bump. Running LM Molygen 5w40 and uses about 1qt per 3k miles. Not bad considering I change the oil about every 3.5k. Every oil leak has been fixed at this point and the car is sitting at ~146.5k.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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That's a mighty fine oil. I like that it also carries an LL-01 label. Not that you would ever follow the BMW/MINI oil service interval....
 
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Old Nov 7, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsm
That's a mighty fine oil. I like that it also carries an LL-01 label. Not that you would ever follow the BMW/MINI oil service interval....
Yup. I really do think it curbed a good amount of the consumption. No way I am running longer than 3-4k service intervals, it came out super dark this time around! To be fair this has it's fair share of high RPM driving (I just can't help myself :D) but I really don't want to imagine what it would look like after 15k.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tej98
Bump. Running LM Molygen 5w40 and uses about 1qt per 3k miles. Not bad considering I change the oil about every 3.5k. Every oil leak has been fixed at this point and the car is sitting at ~146.5k.
It's never a good idea to go to a thicker viscosity for egine oil, it only serves in creating engine wear....thicker oil has less ability to lubricate at startup which is when 90% of engine wear occurs. Oil is cheaper than replacing an engine.....

A good read: http://www.positivespin.us/MotorOil.htms
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
It's never a good idea to go to a thicker viscosity for egine oil, it only serves in creating engine wear....thicker oil has less ability to lubricate at startup which is when 90% of engine wear occurs. Oil is cheaper than replacing an engine.....

A good read: http://www.positivespin.us/MotorOil.htms
Not to turn this into a typical oil thread, but my understanding is that the "5" in "5w40" functions the same when cold as the factory specified 5w30. And this is all under extreme cold environments, something that my car would rarely see being in the south. The "40" provides better lubrication when running hot. Since this car lives in hot temperatures and the oil does get quite warm, the 5w40 is my choice and will actually work to protect the motor while not thinning out as quickly as a 5w30 would.

Directly from the owner's manual, Page 109:

"Viscosity is the oilflow rating as established in SAE classes.

Approved oils are in SAE classes 5W-40 and 5W-30.

These oils can be used at all ambient tem- peratures."
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tej98
"Viscosity is the oilflow rating as established in SAE classes."
Viscosity is a liquid’s resistance to flow.....The first number 5W, relates only to the flow characteristics in COLD weather regions.

The longer it takes for the oil to pass through, the higher the SAE code is assigned due to the higher viscosity, which means the 5w40 has a higher viscosity ( resistence) than 5w30 = 5w40 has more resistence to flow = increased engine wear after warmed up....
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
Viscosity is a liquid’s resistance to flow.....The first number 5W, relates only to the flow characteristics in COLD weather regions.

The longer it takes for the oil to pass through, the higher the SAE code is assigned due to the higher viscosity, which means the 5w40 has a higher viscosity ( resistence) than 5w30 = 5w40 has more resistence to flow = increased engine wear after warmed up....
Understood, but that is the reason that we want a higher viscosity when up to operating temperature. Higher viscosity during engine running leads to higher oil pressure and a greater film strength left on the valve train. When the oil is very hot, especially after longer runs, a higher shearing oil is essential for maintaining higher oil pressure and keeping components lubricated.

I've actually experienced this over a few different cars when the oil flows freely when warmed up (think cold slow moving oil versus hot oil that moves freely), a lower viscosity will tend to move faster and breakdown quickly when compared to a higher viscosity. If you were to choose a very viscous oil then I suppose you would have engine wear as the oil pump would not be able to move the oil through the engine adequately, but the Mini is rated for a 5w40. With this in mind the 5w40 fits my needs best with the abuse the oil gets in Georgia. The choice is really up to you but I do not think that running a 5w40 over a 5w30 will cause increased engine wear. If anything, it will reduce wear when hot since the complete valve train is still getting adequate flow and has proper oil filming.
 
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