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R50/53 Waiting for the Steptronic 6 speed automatic tranny before ordering your Cooper "S"?

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Too cool:

 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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I got my 05 MCS in August having never driven a manual. I am getting better with every drive, but still have a auto Impala (company car) that I drive every day, so I do not get as much practice. I am anxious to test the auto S to see what the performance is like. I was tempted to order one without testing and sell my stick, but decided to be patient.

This may cause some friction, but I think it is pointless to judge someone based on a preference for transmissions. I have driven alot of automatic transmissions that were very fun and fast!

BTW, define "enthusiast"? Is this someone that doesn't believe in automatic transmissions?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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I like a GOOD auto tranny. One that kicks down with immediacy. I have a MCC I use on weekends and drive an '04 Prius to work during the week. Would NEVER drive a manual to work as it's too involved in the stop and go traffic I face. I would love to test drive the "S" with the new auto. I may be tempted to trade the Prius!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:01 AM
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I am waiting for the Auto.

I had a 1997 Prelude with the Sportshift Auto. That car was a blast. It would let you run up to the 8000 rpm redline and hold it there. Flick the handle and it would shift as fast as I ever could, while holding the revs up. Which is important in that Honda.

I look at the new automatics as the best of both worlds. Shift when you want or let the car take over when you don't. Choice is a good thing.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by speltzer
The SMG option on the current M3:

6-Speed w/Overdrive & Sequential Manual Gearbox $2,400.00
That's not too bad. Cheaper than leather + satnav and it would be way better than the Steptronic autobox. I'd be tempted.

Mark
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by searocko
If the tranny is indeed the same one as in the Audi TT 3.2 and New Beetle TDI, then it will be the Direct Sequential Gearbox (DSG) with dual clutches. However, in everything I've read so far, the MCS gearbox will be more along the lines of a Tiptronic as in the New Beetle Convertible. Anyone know for sure?
Ya, does anyone know? There is a big difference between the DSG and a Tiptronic.

If it had a DSG box and an LSD option, I'd be fairly tempted!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Don't get too excited.....no, it's not the SMG transmission; it's a "typical" auto with paddles; see here for latest ----->

http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/12/..._mcs_automatic
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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no lsd with auto I believe
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rataha
no lsd with auto I believe
That is correct. No LSD with the auto.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Does anyone know if the new MCS automatic "steptronic" 6-spd. is just an updated version of the one previously sold in the MGF?

See this site:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/.../emrbrif21.xml

It is described as a CVT with six "pre-selected gears" or ratios.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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No, the MCS auto tranny is not a CVT.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Now that MINIUSA has released the ratios for the new "S" automatic:

Transmission type = AISIN Automatic
Gear ratio 1st / 2nd / 3rd = 4,044 / 2,371 / 1,556
Gear ratio 4th / 5th / 6th = 1,159 / 0,852 / 0,672
Reverse gear ratio = 3,193
Final drive ratio = 3.683

This info came from a "Motoringfile.com" feature today.


What are the ratios in the "05" manual 6 speed for comparison.

Bill
 
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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I did not realize there were so many shiftless people on this board.


regards,
Red :smile:
 
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Yeah and I'm also gearless too, when I want to be, with the CVT MC.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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So it turns out the new tranny make the car lighter and a little quicker than the manual. 6.9 sec vs. 7.5........will be interesting to drive and see how good it really is.......
 
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Mmmmm, not quite.

According to MINI's official figures 0-62 mph takes 7.9 seconds with the auto and 7.2 seconds with the manual tranny.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/12/..._mcs_automatic
 
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Well that has changed.........I just saw the latest info from the factory which arrived today........6.8 for Auto and 7.4 for manual........
 
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Maybe something to do with the revised gear ratios for the new manual tranny.....maybe it takes an extra cog change to hit the magical 62 mph?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Steptronic faster than the manual? WOW!



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