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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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more classic slow cars

The Alfa Giulia 1300 is one lovely quirky little car.

sports a beatiful rear end styling


I cannot find a decent photo of a late model Fiat Sport Coupe 1600 that I had


Fiat Chrysler is reviving the 124 Spyder with a retro rebadged Miata.

Ford Escort Mk I RS1600 was a car that opened my child's eyes of white car can be so elegant


NSU Prinz - I never own one but it must be crazy fun


NSU Ro80 is a car ahead of its time



Ford Cortina MK I - this is the only car that I know that a racing stripe is mandatory for it to look right



and the Ford Anglia is an ugly duckling that grows on you
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 12:28 PM
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I had a Cortina GT for a while when I was in Japan also. Fun little car. No stripe on my white car though.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 05:47 PM
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NSU Prinz - I never own one but it must be crazy fun


Yowza!

Another of my dream cars.

I'd love to have one of these "baby Corvairs",
they just look so cool!

Sadly quite rare in the US.
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"... these cars weighed only ~1,400 pounds, which helps to explain their giant slayer reputation. Though surprisingly quick in a straight line at around 10 seconds to 60 MPH, the corners is where they excelled, a rearward weight bias making for excellent traction and lots of three-wheeling."

https://bringatrailer.com/2016/04/22...-1971-nsu-tts/

 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:59 PM
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That is a great hill climb video. The high pitch metallic screams are music to my ears. The speeds look so slow but don't forget how tight those uphill turns are. The tiny wheels are cute.

I would rather call them poor men's 911. Only crazy Germans can create quirky little car like this. Tiny 1000 - 1200cc air cool SOHC engines. Seems the designers were a bit weak when it comes to the engine cooling considerations. It must be so difficult to keep these race cars running.


SOHC air cool I4 engine:

those valves are huge for the era


8 spring-clipped rocker arm covers


Das Getriebe


crazy long intake runners - must be after market mod of special to the TTs
 
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Old Feb 1, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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To continue the classic fun cars. Check out this Alfa that has been brought up to more modern performance bits. It is far from affordable but the shear joy of driving is intoxicating.

 
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Mama mia!!!!

That Alfaholics GTA-R is jawdroppingly awe inspiring and dropdead gorgeous.

:drool:

I'm so glad to see the success of Singer with the aircooled Porsches, and now this, first time I've seen it, wow, it's just a showstopper.
Big money just like with Singer,
but My God -
could money be any better spent than this?
I think not!
https://www.alfaholics.com/gta-r/

Thanks for posting the video.
I'll dream about it tonight.
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I went to the Alfa owners convention back in 1995 or so I think, no I didn't own one but I've always loved them, and I bought a book from a vendor there. The book was $100 and my friend who was with me thought I was crazy for buying such an expensive book. I held on to it for a good number of years, truly a lush and lovely book, but then around 8 years ago noticed they were selling for mad money, so I went ahead and sold the book, knowing that I would probably never own an Alfa GTV, let alone a GTA.
Now I regret selling it.
I got $650 when sold.
It was the first edition of Alleggerita by Tony Adriaensens.
Now in reprint:
https://www.autonetcarbooks.com/alle...ml?language=en

But the 1st edition still command the big bucks:
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sea...ita+&kn=&isbn=

I love watching this vintage video,
3 wheel stance at 0:28 and even crazier extended at 0:44!
too cool!

Makes me want a rear wheel drive car dammit!

 
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And thanks god, with $250k budget they managed to refrain from blacking out all the chromes.

I am aware of Singer and have watch video of the interview of the founder. Many aircooled 911s are gorgeous. They are hardly bigger than our Minis. I especially like the rise from the floor of pedals of these old cars.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 09:04 AM
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Stumbled across an odd site I've never seen in the UK where you report online bad drivers or hooligans...

...this driver is definitely a hooligan:


X X X
Language Warning:
do not click the link if you are sensitive to vulgarities.

http://rate-driver.co.uk/S28RMH

Now back to the worthwhile MINI thread...

...indeed it is a champion thread!
I like his style too.

I like how many of the Brits and euro R53 guys use the GP2 rear seat delete too:




Quite a few guys asked him about the cargo net and it does look great. He said it was a Nascar style window net that he had repurposed--
brilliant!

I'd like to somehow spruce up the foam GP2 rsd a little though,
similar to what Coen de K did with his, which is an actual GP1 part...
...looks great with carpet:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post2220629

Love the proper steering wheel too...



...I plan on doing the same except I'll be going with a rally-style Sparco 215 in leather.

 
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 03:29 PM
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one worthwhile, no getting to be one fantastic thread . . .
 
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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 07:51 PM
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This is a fun thread!

We need some Smokin' John Rhodes though,
so here he is...


Some of my favorite classic Cooper racing images are of him.



Quick quote from Thoroughbred & Classic Cars magazine Feb. 2003 -

"Rhodes the racer bristled with aggression, with teeth bared and the car flung impossibly sideways.

His recipe for success was simple: 'With front-wheel drive , you could go in faster than anybody, lift momentarily to oversteer, then floor it again. Going sideways slowed you and turned the car in. With wheels straight you'd power on to pull the car into the corner, travelling through at 45 degrees. When you got to the exit you were facing straight and had been on the power ages longer than the rear-wheel drive boys. It did smoke a bit, though!'"
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:37 AM
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No Cockney accent there.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 09:50 AM
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...speaking of accents,
I really enjoy this video demonstrating the Tynesider dialect for some reason.


 
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I love that video. So interesting. I like watching TV series from all countries, and I never want them dubbing to English. A lot of Netflix productions now produced for choices of 5 or more language but I always choose to watch in the native language. Similar words often have so different meaning in different countries or regions. My experience has always been with people easily taking offense of coarse language and seeming criticism, tends to be ignorant and narrow minded. The real world is not a bowl of cherries.
 
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Originally Posted by pnwR53S
I love that video. So interesting. I like watching TV series from all countries, and I never want them dubbing to English. A lot of Netflix productions now produced for choices of 5 or more language but I always choose to watch in the native language. Similar words often have so different meaning in different countries or regions. My experience has always been with people easily taking offense of coarse language and seeming criticism, tends to be ignorant and narrow minded. The real world is not a bowl of cherries.
I always like to watch in the native language as well.

Since I am a longtime Saabnut I tried to learn Swedish and was watching many many movies but they speak so fast!
Beautiful and mellifluous though, in the rhythmic sing-song manner.

I could never get the hang of actually speaking Swedish, but I can read and write fairly decent.
A decade ago I requested the help of natives when translating an article about power steering on the Saab works rally cars:

http://forum.saabturboclub.com/showt...ka-translation

...and in that thread I learned that most Swedes favored native language w/ Swe subtitles too.

enor sagd:

Actually, the Simpsons DID air dubbed to Swedish - but only the very first few episodes when the show first appeared on Swedish TV. This caused a massive flow of complaints from the viewers, so the network immediately chose to revert back to the original soundtrack and put subtitles on the show, just as we Swedes are used to.

I also totally agree with you with regards to "coarse" language.

"The line between decency and indecency is an ever-shifting one and merits unremitting investigation."
(Allen Walker Read, 1935)

The word "bugger" for instance, originally meant a Bulgarian heretic, but later implied 'one addicted to unnatural vice.'

“Go, get thee gone thou frantic ***, to the devil, and be buggered!”

But nowadays the word bugger has very little vulgar impact.

Another example: mewling quim

During an especially dramatic scene in the 2012 box-office smash The Avengers, Tom Hiddleston’s Loki, imprisoned and irascible, lashes out at Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson), ultimately referring to her as a “mewling quim.” If you recoiled at that moment—or, for that matter, had the faintest idea what was going on—then you should be commended for your solid working knowledge of outdated British profanity. The insult—which would have drawn audible gasps and possible bouts of fainting in mid-19th-century London theaters had Marvel Comics and the requisite movie projection technology been around at that time—amounts to “whimpering vagina.”

And another,
the word bloody has been so diluted that you can hear it in Harry Potter movies, but it was at one time considered quite the "bad word"...

http://dialectblog.com/2012/05/10/how-dirty-was-bloody/

Bloody -
an epithet difficult to define, and used in a multitude of vague and varying senses. Most frequently, however, as it falls with wearisome reiteration every two or three seconds from the mouths of London roughs of the lowest type, no special meaning, much less a sanguinary one, can be attached to its use. In such a case it forms a convenient intensitive, sufficiently important as regards sound to satisfy those whose lack of language causes them to fall back upon a frequent use of words of this type.
(Farmer and Henley, "A dictionary of slang and colloquial English", 1905)

Steven Pinker has a couple of interesting viddies on the toob under the rubric of "The Linguistics of Cursing and Swearing".
 
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I need subtitles to understand that young lady. When I was growing up this is the way car guys sounded. I tried to find a video of when Junior johnson took his '63 NASCAR Chevy to UK for some high faluting concours event where everyone stood around sipping wine and talking cars. Needless to say, Junior took some of his signature White Lightning with him. That and the car was a big hit.

 
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I've always loved print magazines, and the British car mags are usually very worthwhile.

I picked up a new-to-me title recently and was highly impressed overall with its quality.

It is Modern Classics.

https://www.modernclassicsmagazine.co.uk/

I think I might even subscribe because the rate is fairly cheap considering it is overseas, and although it can be frustrating reading about cars I'll never likely see in the wild, I just can't resist.

https://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/mod...71e6950f96f5c6

Anyway,
the reason I had originally got it is because they ran a specific feature that I was interested in,
and it's a fun read.

If interested,
you can read it
here:
https://imgur.com/a/g4mS1

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Great find.

 
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interview of alec issigonis

How can a mini thread worthwhile without the mention of the original designer? The classic mini was designed by Sir Alex Issignonis, a British Greek. This is an interview with the man that regarded himself as an engineer rather than a designer, on the design of the mini and affordable mass production cars. So rarely nowadays do we get to hear the unvarnished inside story with the development of a great car.

 

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Hmm a British Greek. Is that similar to a Greek Britten that Prince Phillip is ?
 
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Hmm a British Greek. Is that similar to a Greek Britten that Prince Phillip is ?
A kind of, sort of, but Alex was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He was born in the Ottaman Empire. He would be considered by ICE as a foreign alien, with a name like Alexander Arnold Constantine Issigonis. Might as well be Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera.

Quite some achievement by an immigrant. The cars that he had his hands on are the Morris Minor, Mini, Austin 1100, Austin 1800, and Austin Maxi.

Wikipedia has a pretty good page on the unassuming man.
 
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Audi R8 Plus vs Renault Clio-Cup

I so want, want, want one - not that V10 R8, but the little Clio-Cup.


If I were in the market for a new reasonably priced track car that can be driven to the events, one of my top pick may be the BRZ. BRZ fills the void Miatas do not.
 
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When I hit the lottery will get me one of those Alfas.
 
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When I hit the lottery will get me one of those Alfas.
I was just looking closely at the 4C the other day, and I thought it is a proper Alfa since the GTV era. It certainly not a car one will buy for biggest bang for the buck. Alfa never is a car for cross shopping in a given price range. You have to really want an Alfa to justify for one.
 
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the story of jcw and the mini

This video must have been posted before but for me it is new. I found it while cruising MINI USA website and found it in a page about the 50 years history of the mini legacy.

The video is almost 30 minutes long.

only 7202 views

I take it with a healthy grains of marketing salt. I know all too well for MINI to stick with what Mini's great would be a corporate suicide given only few really care passionately about driving these days.
 
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I just put some coilovers on my Vert. Will be doing some mountain runs in a couple of weeks. Should be in for more than a few smiles.

All those poor souls that just think a MINI is cute.
 
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