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Old May 2, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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Congrats on a great-looking car at an even greater price. Don't know where you're located but I heartily recommend that you investigate and enroll your daughter in a BMW CCA Street Survival School Driving School as soon as possible. You and she will both benefit. She needs to learn her...and the car's...limitations.
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Old May 2, 2017 | 07:48 PM
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From someone who had the optional Sport Suspension which was the base suspension in the JCW, the shocks MINI uses are really not good. I replaced them at ~50k miles with Bilstein B8s and which I wish I had done that the day I bought the car. From everything I have read, the B4s are also a step up from what MINI uses, even though they are considered to be the OEM replacement. There is a really good thread on NAM comparing the B4s to the KONI FSDs. Both come across well and it comes down to cost vs the improved ride of the FSDs. And both are considered to be much better than anything MINI uses. As for the optional JCW sports suspension (the suspension that comes with the red springs), I doubt that the shocks in that optional package are any better than than those in the base JCW suspension and they cost a lot; the B8s would be my choice instead of those.

As for replacing the strut bearings, buy a set of IE fixed camber plates. These come with a much needed, but mild, increase in camber (same as the factory camber as the Gen II GP). They also come with a steel plate that will prevent mushrooming of the strut tower. No change in ride quality, no increase in tire wear and no increase in noise. These are one of the best improvements in handling you can make. Turn in is greatly improved without the potential of spinning the car in the middle of a corner that a larger rear sway bar can cause.

If you are tearing the front suspension apart anyway, those are the changes I'd make (been there, done that ). Keep the MINI S springs. No need to go lower and/or stiffer for a young driver.

Hope all comes together with the car. I fully understand about daughters having several who we raised to be strong willed and independent. It is tough to do in those teen years but worth it for their sake when they go out on their own. Yours is lucky to have you.
Thank you for that solid suspension recommendation. I'll have to decide b4 vs b8. All corners vs just the fronts. If everything else looks ok, I'll leave well enough alone. Don't really want to be adding aftermarket bushings, etc. and introducing any NVH to the car.

I'm already talking to my daughter about street survival skills. I give her a running commentary as we are driving together all the time so she knows what I am seeing and anticipating as I drive.
 
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Old May 4, 2017 | 03:23 AM
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Thank you for that solid suspension recommendation. I'll have to decide b4 vs b8. All corners vs just the fronts. If everything else looks ok, I'll leave well enough alone. Don't really want to be adding aftermarket bushings, etc. and introducing any NVH to the car.

I'm already talking to my daughter about street survival skills. I give her a running commentary as we are driving together all the time so she knows what I am seeing and anticipating as I drive.
You'll want to invest in something aftermarket to strengthen the strut towers. I'm getting ready to make some reinforcement plates for myself. I can PM you after I confirm fitment if you're looking for something a bit less expensive (but also less refined, TBH) than the mass produced solutions.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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For the dampness in the rear hatch area - the weatherstrip around the opening shrinks over time. It looks perfect, and doesn't look out of place, but if you look closely at the top corners you will see it is almost lifted off the edge of the sheet metal. In my case there was a small gap.

The solution is to use a razor blade and cut the splice down at the bottm at the latch. Then reseat the gasket all around. When you are done you will see the gap at your new cut is 1/4" to 3/8".

This is a problem on many cars, not just Mini's.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 03:17 PM
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Thank you for that solid suspension recommendation. I'll have to decide b4 vs b8. All corners vs just the fronts. If everything else looks ok, I'll leave well enough alone. Don't really want to be adding aftermarket bushings, etc. and introducing any NVH to the car.

I'm already talking to my daughter about street survival skills. I give her a running commentary as we are driving together all the time so she knows what I am seeing and anticipating as I drive.
i would strongly advise against just changing the shocks in the front. This would be just as bad as putting two new tires on the front and leaving two bald ones on the rear.

As as for the IE fixed camber plates, these are not like the adjustable ones you may be familiar with. I have them in my car and from my experience the IE plates don't add to NVH. They are made with stock BMW strut bearings with all the rubber dampening, plus they they have a built in reinforcement plate. Don't write them off; check them out (Way Motors has them).
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
i would strongly advise against just changing the shocks in the front. This would be just as bad as putting two new tires on the front and leaving two bald ones on the rear.

As as for the IE fixed camber plates, these are not like the adjustable ones you may be familiar with. I have them in my car and from my experience the IE plates don't add to NVH. They are made with stock BMW strut bearings with all the rubber dampening, plus they they have a built in reinforcement plate. Don't write them off; check them out (Way Motors has them).
I was talking about the powerflex bushings etc. I went with an oem passenger's side engine mount and will probably do the lower one as well, with a Lemforder, as I saw a tear while working on the car today.

So I changed ot the OFHG and did an oil change. The OFHG was kind of a difficult. The gasket was rock hard. I had to remove the PS fan to get better to the bottom most bolt. What an God awful place to put the oil filter. Every time you do a change oil leaks all over the components below it.

Did the passenger's side motor mount and had to manhandle the engine to get it back on the bolt wile lowering the engine at the same time.

The driver's side cv axle was a piece of cake.
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 05:29 AM
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On the oil change, loosen the filter a little. Then walk away and come back in like 1/2 to a full hour. The oil will drain out of the filter housing.
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 06:47 AM
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I think MINI did everything they could to discourage the DIY'er from changing their own oil. Apparently the R53 wasn't bad enough so they made the R56 (second gen MINIs) even worse. I feel your pain with that one.
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by r53coop
On the oil change, loosen the filter a little. Then walk away and come back in like 1/2 to a full hour. The oil will drain out of the filter housing.
Don't have time for this. May be if I were getting book rate, I'd get paid for doing several jobs at one time.
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I think MINI did everything they could to discourage the DIY'er from changing their own oil. Apparently the R53 wasn't bad enough so they made the R56 (second gen MINIs) even worse. I feel your pain with that one.
Then I'm so glad I didn't get a R56 or fat Elvis as I call them. The R53 is the young, trim, sexy Elvis.
 
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Old May 8, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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I found that doggie pee pads work great at containing a lot of the oil slop from the oil filter
 
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Old May 9, 2017 | 06:26 AM
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Finally had a chance to do the compression test and get the car in the air. Here is a pic of the plugs from cylinders 1-4 from left to right:


My crappy Harbor Freight compression tester read 120 across all cylinders. Take that for what it is worth. Car drives great, so I think that number is low by at least 10-15 psi.

Also noticed that the passenger's side strut bushing has failed as compared to the driver's side:



I was only 50% right when it can to the oil leaks. Turns out the the oil filter housing gasket was leaking, but the other was coming from the driver's side outer cv boot. Can't really see a tear, but oil is/was being flung from it all around that side. Have a new cv axle and oil filter housing gasket coming in the mail. Still trying to decide what to do with the suspension. Should I replace all strut tops only or do the tops with new struts and old springs vs sportier shocks and springs with a very mild drop. Really don't want to compromise the ride on this car as it will not be seeing any autocrossing etc.
Yep , it has the cracks like mine did. I went with the Lemforder ones

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Nice car, but I think that giving it to a foul mouthed 16yr old girl with "an attitude" is a bad idea. I hope you get good insurance on it....chances are it's going to get wrenches soon after you give it to her. She needs a 1984 Volvo....not a Mini S
 
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Old May 11, 2017 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
Nice car, but I think that giving it to a foul mouthed 16yr old girl with "an attitude" is a bad idea. I hope you get good insurance on it....chances are it's going to get wrenches soon after you give it to her. She needs a 1984 Volvo....not a Mini S
Love the old DLs especially the turbo wagons. I had a 855R in the day. Just love wagons in general except the countryman, what an eyesore.

Yeah, the daughter doesn't have a foul mouth just sassy and does have an attitude. That is the way I want my girls to be, strong willed and independent. She is not a risk taker and has a good head on her shoulders. Smart, confident, skeptical, cautious, she will go far.
 

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I've just gotten another MCS and will be transferring some stuff from this car to the other. This one will probably get the poor man's JCW front brakes out of a R56, aluminum coolant reservoir, etc.

I'll also be replacing the hoses when I do a new water pump and servicing the SC.

Need recommendations for new hoses. Silicone?
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 03:31 PM
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Do a search on using silicon hoses. I read a NAM article that said it is not the best idea and the stock hoses are the best.
 
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