R50/53 Petition to bring back the 2-spoke Sport Steering Wheel?
I'm with SCCA. Death to the two-spoke
I see no problem with offering both, but if it's only one, I think they picked the one that will appeal to more buyers. That's what marketing is all about
I see no problem with offering both, but if it's only one, I think they picked the one that will appeal to more buyers. That's what marketing is all about
Originally Posted by SCCA
Wow...I am amazed all you guys prefer the 2 spoke "mini-van" looking(and feeling) wheel...the three spoke is much more sports car looking in my opinion and has much better ergonomics, but then again not everyone shares my good taste.

Originally Posted by BostonMarkC
I'm with SCCA. Death to the two-spoke
I see no problem with offering both, but if it's only one, I think they picked the one that will appeal to more buyers. That's what marketing is all about
I see no problem with offering both, but if it's only one, I think they picked the one that will appeal to more buyers. That's what marketing is all about

Larry
Yea to the 2-spoke
I recently got a 05' Cooper S, and I too am disappointed. Although, I like the three-spoke wheel's sportiness, I just think it is too small and I personally liked black better. Not to mention the extra source button on the back of the steering wheel, the old wheel just looked a little more classy.
nay to the 2-spoke
i have smallish hands and the 3-spoke just fits me better, the 2-spoke was too beefy and weird with all those backside controls.
I also like the third spoke at the bottom, quite handy for evasive moves

and yes we should have a choice
I also like the third spoke at the bottom, quite handy for evasive moves

and yes we should have a choice
Aesthetically, it comes down to a matter of taste, but from a safety perspective, I vote with the 2-spoke wheel. Adjusting the radio/CD from behind allows my hands to be in constant contact with the wheel. I didn't find the controls to be awkward or difficult to learn. BTW, I am very satisfied with the quality/durability of the leather on this wheel in my 02 MC.
One thing about the 3-spoke wheel has me puzzled. Where's the horn button? Please tell me it's not built into the airbag cover!
One of the best things about the 2-spoke is that I can rest a thumb on a spoke-mounted horn button at the first sign of an impending hazard, and my fingers stay firmly on the wheel. :smile: That's much better that taking a hand off to hover over the wheel hub.
Worse yet, I've got his creepy mental picture of what would happen if the airbag deployed while a hub-mounted horn button was being pressed. It involves the back of the driver's hand, and a broken nose...
One of the best things about the 2-spoke is that I can rest a thumb on a spoke-mounted horn button at the first sign of an impending hazard, and my fingers stay firmly on the wheel. :smile: That's much better that taking a hand off to hover over the wheel hub.
Worse yet, I've got his creepy mental picture of what would happen if the airbag deployed while a hub-mounted horn button was being pressed. It involves the back of the driver's hand, and a broken nose...
I like the 2 spoke better. The 3 spoke looks exactly like the PS1 wheel controller.
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/pr...ges/239298.jpg
But I think GM got this one right (that and I owned one). 4 spoke but it did not have the air bag bulk eather.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images...1000503LRG.jpg
The lower spokes are good for curzing and the top two are for corners
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/pr...ges/239298.jpg
But I think GM got this one right (that and I owned one). 4 spoke but it did not have the air bag bulk eather.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/images...1000503LRG.jpg
The lower spokes are good for curzing and the top two are for corners
Me - Two!
Two spoke - no question.
The three spoke feels nice in the hands, but between the backside stereo controls (WAY 2 cool) and horn buttons (hmm, if I'm hitting the horn as I try to avoid them, but still hit them, my arm gets broken. Not 2 cool.) I may look to retrofit a 2 spoke to a 2005.
The three spoke feels nice in the hands, but between the backside stereo controls (WAY 2 cool) and horn buttons (hmm, if I'm hitting the horn as I try to avoid them, but still hit them, my arm gets broken. Not 2 cool.) I may look to retrofit a 2 spoke to a 2005.
I didn't even realize the 2-spoke had audio controls. It's too bad they don't offer them anymore, but I was actually planning on transferring my kenwood head unit out of my old car into my '05. I was going to skip the MFSW and use the behind-the-wheel RC-700 wheel remote that I've become accustomed to. That is, unless I can find a reasonably priced adapter that makes the audio buttons work with my head unit. Now that I've read some of the complaints, I'm pretty sure I'll skip the 3 spoke MFSW. If there's a petition for the 2 spoker, I'll sign it.
Originally Posted by Ryephile
..and I say the opposite of Red - the thumb buttons on the 2-spoke are way quicker and safer to use than the take-your-hands-off hub-button of the 3-spoke.
Sign me up for the Petition!
Sign me up for the Petition!
But my wife says it is easier than the center hub horn on a Taurus.
regards,
Red
Originally Posted by BostonMarkC
The entire center part of the 3-spoke wheel is the horn button.
Historically I'm a 3-spoke steering wheel fan; I even think the MINI's 3-spoke is more balanced aesthetically. The real issue for me is functionality; the 2-spoke rocks for that. To each is own, but MINI certainly axed an excellent wheel.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72803
Looks like the 2-spoke is still around, at least in other countries.
Looks like the 2-spoke is still around, at least in other countries.
Originally Posted by SCCA
Wow...I am amazed all you guys prefer the 2 spoke "mini-van" looking(and feeling) wheel...the three spoke is much more sports car looking in my opinion and has much better ergonomics, but then again not everyone shares my good taste.

But I'll sign a petition if you start one. I really don't like the new wheel and with 55k miles on my MINI, I do plan on getting another one soon.
I can't belive you people! I know its a personal preference but I can't stand the 2 spoke. I had it on a loaner and too big and has a cheap feel to it. The same goes for the standard light gray headlining. I can't stand it.
I find that the 3 spoke has a much better feel to it. It's a shame there's no source button on it for the radio, but I've never stopped listing to mp3's since I got mine.
Luke
I find that the 3 spoke has a much better feel to it. It's a shame there's no source button on it for the radio, but I've never stopped listing to mp3's since I got mine.
Luke
Originally Posted by buzzy
I can't belive you people! I know its a personal preference but I can't stand the 2 spoke. I had it on a loaner and too big and has a cheap feel to it. The same goes for the standard light gray headlining. I can't stand it.
I find that the 3 spoke has a much better feel to it. It's a shame there's no source button on it for the radio, but I've never stopped listing to mp3's since I got mine.
Luke
I find that the 3 spoke has a much better feel to it. It's a shame there's no source button on it for the radio, but I've never stopped listing to mp3's since I got mine.
Luke
Where do sign to support the return of the two-spoke?
I justified the extra money for the MFSW on safety grounds. OK, I was streching it a bit--but given the downright dinky controls on MINI's stock radio, not much!
I justified the extra money for the MFSW on safety grounds. OK, I was streching it a bit--but given the downright dinky controls on MINI's stock radio, not much!
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Originally Posted by bradman
LOL, I can't believe any true car enthusiast could prefer a two spoke wheel over a three spoke wheel! I refused to buy a MINI until the 3 spoke wheel was made an option in late 2003. Yes, you heard me, refused I say! I love my 3 spoke '04 MC. I already have a two spoke wheel - in my Jeep Cherokee! And I see them frequently in Buicks...they look very nice in Buicks...LOL
The 2 spoke is more functional IMHO, and fits my hands better. Has to be the 2 spoke with the bumps at 2 and 10 though.





