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R50/53 CVT or Manual-How important is it to test before buyng?

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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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>>>>>>Fuel consumption of the CVT is much lower of that of an stock MCS. I have both so I can make a fair comparison. Actually, the CVTs fuel consumption is more in line with the 5-speed model than the MCS.
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>>>>Yeah... I've been surprised how low my CVT mileage is actually (average around 22-23mpg, almost all city). Of course, that's coming from an old 5-speed Honda Civic which (for an 11 year old car) averaged an unholy 35-ish city and 40 hwy; granted it only had
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>>>>Having said that, even if it had significantly lower mileage than the whole line I still would have snatched it up; the convenience in the city combined with a surprisingly sporty demeanor make this gear a godsend in the urban jungle.
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>>>>Now all we need is an MCS w/ a CVT...
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>>Your mileage will improve as you rack up miles. The CVT does not use the same amount of fuel as the MCS. I have both so I have made notations and follow ups at the pump.
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>>A MCS automatic is coming for 2005. It was announced here at http://www.motoringfile.com. It is not clear yet if they will use the current ZF CVT or not.
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Just to clarify I didn't hear anything specific about a Auto/MCS time frame - just that it was coming the next couple of years.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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>>>>>>>>Fuel consumption of the CVT is much lower of that of an stock MCS. I have both so I can make a fair comparison. Actually, the CVTs fuel consumption is more in line with the 5-speed model than the MCS.
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>>>>>>Yeah... I've been surprised how low my CVT mileage is actually (average around 22-23mpg, almost all city). Of course, that's coming from an old 5-speed Honda Civic which (for an 11 year old car) averaged an unholy 35-ish city and 40 hwy; granted it only had
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>>>>>>Having said that, even if it had significantly lower mileage than the whole line I still would have snatched it up; the convenience in the city combined with a surprisingly sporty demeanor make this gear a godsend in the urban jungle.
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>>>>>>Now all we need is an MCS w/ a CVT...
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>>>>Your mileage will improve as you rack up miles. The CVT does not use the same amount of fuel as the MCS. I have both so I have made notations and follow ups at the pump.
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>>>>A MCS automatic is coming for 2005. It was announced here at http://www.motoringfile.com. It is not clear yet if they will use the current ZF CVT or not.
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>>Just to clarify I didn't hear anything specific about a Auto/MCS time frame - just that it was coming the next couple of years.

Oh and it won't be the CVT.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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>>Oh and it won't be the CVT.

Hehe...

I see a 6-speed MCS in my future then.

The CVT is the ONLY automatic I've ever really cared for.

Actually, I take that back. I "test drove" (I use the term loosely as I don't have even close to the cash to buy one) an M3 w/ a SMG tranny a while back... that was a BEAST.
 
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