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R50/53 Very upset with MINI and the buy back of my MC.

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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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MINI USA may not wait for your EB MINI order. Maybe you should consider trucking your car in from MINI of the Hamptons or Classic MINI. Better yet, fly over and MOTOR back to Cali. That way, your car will have been broken in, you don't pay over MSRP, and you'll have a grin from ear to ear.

Another thing you could do is check with other people who ordering their MINIs and find out the delivery date. Perhaps all of you could motor back in a group.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Oh, and it took less than 2 months from placing my order with Classic to delivery.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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A $1000 for two month wait isn't bad. This is in Cleveland Ohio?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Classic has been offering discounts off MSRP to NAM members and 20% off accessories (with no CA sales tax).
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Check this out.

MINI of the Hamptons

Just make sure it's DS/DS

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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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It's in Mentor, Ohio, just outside of Cleveland. Be sure to check the dealer reviews on them. I believe they have cars on the lot if you want something shipped asap.

For shipping, if you want to pay a little more for an enclosed truck I would recommend http://www.concourstransport.com. There are several companies out there that specialise in enclosed shipping for high dollar cars. The cost is a little more (think $1000-$1500), but I think the service is worth it.

Keep in mind a plane ticket and gas back to CA would be alot more fun and cost alot less.

Rasmussen MINI in Oregon still has a 9 month wait on an MCS.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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What is the other place that ships at MSRP? Classic MINI? Where are they?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Classic MINI is in Ohio. Here is the deal that they are running

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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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I was just thinking and ordering the car out of state probably isn't an option. I doubt MINI will want to deal with paying the taxes and registration on a car shipped over to California. Which puts me back at having them buy back my car and then buying it on my own which will cost as much as paying the dealer mark up or maybe even more.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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"Keep in mind a plane ticket and gas back to CA would be alot more fun and cost alot less. "

I agree. If you can swing the time, this would be a great opportunity for a road trip, either by yourself or with a friend.

If you're willing to do this, you should be able to find several dealers selling at MSRP or less with just a few phone calls. You can then decide which one gets your business based on the price or the air fare or which area of the country you'd really like to see or even a dart throw!

Have fun!

 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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If i do it the MINI way they pay tax and liscense. Well I pay tax on the difference for the upgrade. I have a feeling this will be a serious problem if I but from out of state. I am almost positive they will say no or make me pay tax and reg on my own which probably puts it over the dealer mark up.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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You pay tax and liscence when you register your car in your home state. When I got mine from Classic I just cut them a check for the price of the car. I may have paid $20 for a temp Ohio plate, but that was it. There were no Ohio taxes or anything.

Talk to Julie, she can explain the whole process.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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>>It isn't looking good. I have a feeling I won't be getting a MINI. I am pretty disappointed right now. I have heard there is one dealer that doesn't have dealer mark up in my area and it is over a year wait for a Cooper S. I would think MINI would replace my car with no dealer mark up and really they should waive the vehicle limit for my replacement car. It shouldn't count as one of the dealers cars for the month.
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>>So anyone have suggestions for cars other than MINI. I am thinking a Honda Element for going to the snow.

Get a Daihatsu. Soccer moms in minivans will pity you.


 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Or get an old Mini knock-off.


 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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>>You pay tax and liscence when you register your car in your home state. When I got mine from Classic I just cut them a check for the price of the car. I may have paid $20 for a temp Ohio plate, but that was it. There were no Ohio taxes or anything.
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>>Talk to Julie, she can explain the whole process.

The whole idea behind lemon law is that you get a new car to replace the current one because it is a piece of crap. Mini has to pay tax and liscense. This is totally defeating the purpose if I have to pay those fees a second time because MINI sold a car that was crap.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Bummer about MINIUSA's stubbornness. It seems as though they try in the wrong direct far to often and fail to realize happy customers are the best sales people. MINIUSA really needs to rethink their approach to "special handling".
Long Beach Mini sells at MSRP but the wait is so looooooooooong. MOTH and Classic seem to have it together - MSRP, a bit of a discount worked in, and lots of experience shipping MINIs to the west coast. Call them, explain what is going on with MINIUSA and go with whomever can give a priority order. I would even call Mini of Peabody since they are a stand alone dealer and are also dedicated to happy customers and happy MINIs.
One of these three dealers may well be your best ally and negotiator with MINIUSA. It never hurts to ask, and you will never know until you ask.
Keep us posted.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Forget the Las Vegas Dealer; the last time I was there (Feb 2004) they were still marking the MCS $3K + over MSRP. Plus they are the rudest bunch around...........mgg
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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YOU CAN BUY MINE.
2002 DARK SILVER/W S, LOADED MINUS NAVIGATION, BACK UP SENSORS, AND RAIN WIPERS. 41000 MILES.
LOVE IT, BUT THE FAMILY IS GROWING.
AM IN INDIANAPOLIS.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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>>YOU CAN BUY MINE.
>>2002 DARK SILVER/W S, LOADED MINUS NAVIGATION, BACK UP SENSORS, AND RAIN WIPERS. 41000 MILES.
>>LOVE IT, BUT THE FAMILY IS GROWING.
>>AM IN INDIANAPOLIS.

Sorry but I am not touching a 2002 after the problems I had with mine.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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SOmeone mentioned the Las Vegas dealership. Last I heard, they were still charging $2500 above MSRP.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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This is going to be a long weekend waiting to here if they are going to let me move my order to another dealer.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Sounds like you have two options in persuing your Lemon case:
1) take the offered cash settlement
OR
2) screw around with MINIUSA for a replacement that meets their satisfaction

I'm guessing the cash settlement was not acceptable. As you're finding out, MINIUSA is not exactly a breeze to work with. Does NOT paying the $2500 ADP make option #1 more appealing? Furthermore, your basis of complaint in paying taxes and registration again feels skewed to me; you'd be getting a BRAND NEW CAR. In my eyes, that's worth dishing out the few extra bucks for legal paperwork. Remember, you can always deal with your current Cooper, but it also sounds like you're itching for an S. Speaking of your Cooper, what is wrong with it?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Ocho9, I to would not pay for their greed. I took my business to Oklahoma. I paid MSRP, & plan to drive my new MCS back to Northern Cal. I have more car for the money and most importantly those greedy little BAS-turdas get NOTHING!! Ocho9 don’t miss the wave join us, call Oklahoma speak to Chad.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Or do like I did, 4,551 miles later! Buy it out of state, in my case, Roadshow in Memphis, TN, and drive it back (to California)! You'll still spend $500-$1000 for a plane ticket, food and motels, but heck, it's worth it, and the satisfaction of knowing you didn't just put the money into the dealers pocket! Might take anywhere from 3 days to a week to pull it off. I did it in 11 days, but visited 12 states. Good luck!


 
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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>>If you didn't sign anything, you're not bound to buy anything. Walk away.

In the state of California you are not legally bound to take delivery of even a special order car. Buy law the dealer must refund 100% of any “good faith” deposit up until the time you take actual physical delivery. The only regress the dealer has is to sue you in court for damages and damages can be hard to prove.

Tell the representative from BMW of North America that is handling the buy back that you are unwilling to pay a mark-up over MSRP. The distributor can exert a lot of pressure on the dealer. I would bet they can get things worked out for you.

BMW of North America gets slammed a lot on this forum but I have found they do try to do what is right. Sometimes the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing but if you are persistent and patient and are willing to work with them they usually are very fair and accommodating.

 
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