My car can pull on S2000, no problem.... Done it against 2 different cars. Don't know their state of mods, but both had aftermarket exhausts. I drove a S2000 back in 2001 and found it boring below 6k rpms.

 

To beat an S2000?

Love the Gen 1's!!!!!

 

Aftermarket exhaust or just one of those stupid fat noisy muffler/tailpipe? The kind one oft finds on Hondas...,,

 

"223 WHP 200 WTQ" - no wonder you can pull on an S2K...

 

can a stock R56 pull on an S2000? I bet one with a chip, DP, and cai could

 

S2k::: 240 bhp @ 8,300 rpm / 153 lb·ft @ 7,500 rpm @ CRANK / Curb W. 2,864 lb


R53::: 163 hp @ 6000 rpm / 162 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm @ CRANK / Curb W. 2513 lbs


I definitely think you would give the S2K a run for its money if you are both stock. just basing on how much more power the R53 makes in the lower rpms makes a huge diffrence the 2sk makes nothing. also the diffrence is when the engines make power too!

VTEC = virtually torqueless economy car

 

also to make another point. my dead jetta could pull on lots of hondas real hard. (not S2k's but...)
why? becasue i was making lots of torque instantly here is a dyno sheet of my jetta before it died. i had all my torque all the time look at that almost flat line i have for torque and the nice linear line for hp

 

Having driven my dads S2K I can say it's pretty gutless under 6K rpm. As a daily driver it's not really that fast of a car unless you're flogging it constantly. As long as you keep the revs over 6K it's a great little race car. It'd take a pretty heavily modded R53 just to keep up with one let alone be able to pull on it at all. The MINI has more useable power down low but the S2K revs so freely that the VTEC kicks in damn quick.
I think an R56 with a downpipe, FMIC and a tune would be able to pull pretty good if not at least keep up with the S2K.

 

Yeah well previously owning a couple hybrid Hondas in the past, and my R53 being my first non-Honda, trust me, the "S" was on my list. Like stated earlier on here though, most cheap mods to those cars did nothing but decreased performance. That is a well f'n tuned 2.2 from the start. Pretty much the most horses per liter Honda has produced. At least when I was still breathing Honda. I still own a 2.3 Honda that still amazes me. But to me all around my Mini wins hands down on my overall scale. Just wish I knew as much about the darn motor as I did Hondas. Those things were the easiest f'n cars to tune. But working hard on learning the R53, to be able to say the same in a couple years. Hopefully a lot sooner, but my 41k mile Facelift R53, has had some pretty retarded issues thus far. So still hoping for the best, but without modd'n your R53, very sorry to say on track day, your buds probably gonna impress ya, or **** ya off.

 

Yeah your "FORTUNATELY" not in the relm of our buddy posting this thread. I sure as he.ll can't wait to be able to say that I can pull on an Honda S.
Congrats To You Though

 

For a little while the 2.0L F20C in the AP1s held the title for most horsepower per liter of any N/A engine in the world ever produced. I believe the Ferrari 458 is what bested it.

 

R53 = (S2K+Honda Fit)/2

 

Youre gonna need a little bit more than an exhaust and intercooler and pulley to outrun an S2000...
Trust me.. I know LOL
Then again that car was tuned and such, where as i just had a pulley, I was gaining on him at about 90+ tho (fictional reference LOL)

 

There are stock AP2's doing 13's at the track so all depends on the driver really. My HR 350Z kills the S2k for the first 100' or so then they slowly start to creep up after that. The low end torque will definitely help but if you had the same driving skill I think the S2K will win every time. If it was an AP1 then that is a different story as they are about a 1/2 sec slower then the AP2.

 

Cool to know

 

Ive owned and 02 AP1 is headers, intake and exhaust and an 06 AP2 with intake and exhaust and honestly i dont think any of those mods made a big difference....the AP2 was such and amazing motor. Im pissed i sold them....I now have a 03 R53 with no mods and honestly my old S2Ks would probably beat it in reverse... :(

I will at the AP1 was quit boring before 6K....AP2 got a little better...

 

The S2000 is a very, very nice sports car. And I'd likely have one if I fit in it and there was room for my small dog in the back. But, as it is, my 06 JCW cabriolet fits the bill nicely.

the S2000 motor doesn't pull very hard until you get the revs up. But once in the meaty part of it's power curve, it's quite quick. And I hear they respond well to tuning. And keep in mind that the redline on those things is 9000 rpm.

 

That's what some people say about the Mini and the Miata. Until they get dusted in the twisties.

 

S2000s actually repsond extremely poorly to modifications unless you throw a supercharger or tubro on there

 

True. I loved seeing the looks on faces in my rearview mirrow when my 05 MCSC, with a 15% reduction pulley, pulled away from them.

Can't WAIT to see reactions after I get my JCW Coupe.

 

I have an '03 AP1 and an '09 factory JCW. The AP1 is technically faster, but the JCW FEELS faster in most situations and is more fun to drive.

 

HP vs TQ...The AP1 delivers its torques much more smoothly and over a much larger RPM band...whereas the JCW peaks early and doesn't last for as many revs.

 

The S2000 is gutless before 6K, there is no torque to speak of and it feels like any other basic 4 cylinder...

after 6K you feel like an F1 driver!

 

I learned from my CBR that even though you can't feel the torque delivery...it is there...an entire 40 ft lbs but it can hit triple digit speeds faster than my mind can comprehend...

 

Comparing the 1/4 mile time I ran in my bone stock R53 (15.6@90) and that of an AP2, they are at least a second faster and have almost 10mph on your trap speed.

The obvious breather mods, intake/exhaust/possibly header, 15% pulley, and a good tune will probably get you kinda close. Once the Honda can spend all of its time above 7k rpm in 2nd-3rd-4th-5th gear, I still think it will have the longer legs top end.