R50/53 SRT-4 engine swap into MINI?
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shop im not sure... but here is the dyno vid of the car... sorry for not posting it in the last post... i should have.. haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_o8...elated&search=
426whp.... mmmmm tasty.. haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_o8...elated&search=
426whp.... mmmmm tasty.. haha
#104
Well, one thing to remember is this: in a Neon chassis anyway, the SRT-4 can't hook to save it's life. Even the 400+WHP SRT-4's barely run 12.80's. A 400rwhp Mustang is a high 11 second car. I don't know how well a shorter wheelbase, lighter car will do with that kind of power.
If you got the money and want a cool project, find a way to make it REAR WHEEL DRIVE.
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shop im not sure... but here is the dyno vid of the car... sorry for not posting it in the last post... i should have.. haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_o8...elated&search=
426whp.... mmmmm tasty.. haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_o8...elated&search=
426whp.... mmmmm tasty.. haha
Yup, sick vid, aint seen that in a while, thanks for the recall
#106
This was just a thought of doing something new with the coopers....
Quite extensive, and not worth the investment to me, so I gave it up....
#107
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Maybe but why would you ????
I heard the mounting points are similar, but prob TOO big for the engine bay... is it a plausible swap without spending a rediculous amount of money on it? I havent seen an srt4 engine bay too many times so forgive me if it is a terrible question, I just heard from a mechanic that its similar
In regards to this I respond by posing the question:
Why would someone want to put an SRT4 into a MINI in the first place
As a Jag owner and officiando, some years back it was customary to put Buick power plants into used XJ models, but there was a reason for that....the original engines had more gremlins than AMC.
#108
Both are Tritec designs and the SRT4 is larger displacement? Seems a logical thought process to me though there are probably easier ways to make power
#109
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
#110
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Precissely...
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
But, if you are looking to enter a stripped down MINI in an episode of PINKS, or as a primary tracker, then the question makes perfect sense.
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Precissely...
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
Swapping out the engine in this case seems bit troublesome for a daily driver, esp when there are some reliable and less complicated perf mods available.
But, if you are looking to enter a stripped down MINI in an episode of PINKS, or as a primary tracker, then the question makes perfect sense.
But, if you are looking to enter a stripped down MINI in an episode of PINKS, or as a primary tracker, then the question makes perfect sense.
As I said... if your not into this, than this is not the thread for you... take it, or leave it...
And whoever said a 2.4 swap can't be a daily driver? People get the wrong idea of a swap...
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Remember,
DON'T HATE
#118
Precissely...
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
If you are happy with your 1.6 and your gas mileage, than you will not understand this thread... But if you are from a racing background or a muscle car background and enjoy change, uniqueness and power... than you get it...
Swapping in a 2.4 in place of a 1.6 and your wondering why??? Hmmmmmmm....
#119
I pondered this and some other similar swaps a while back. Unless you want to do some serious fabrication, it's not going to happen. IF you're really interested in the 2.4 turbo, look to the PT Cruiser turbo. It's a more compact engine bay, closer in size to the mini. More restrictive intake and exhaust because of this (and therefore less power) but it'll probably fit better.
I put a 1.8 DOHC mazda engine in my Festiva and destroyed it by cutting into framerails and beefing them back up, only to find out I didn't do it well enough. Then guys after me found out the 1.6 SOHC turbo fit directly and made more power. Didn't look as cool but my point is that it might make more sense to look at a more logical swap (even a Honda 1.6, with tons of aftermarket support) that might physically fit better and you're mods are basically mounts and inboard c.v. joints.
just remembered...I think Hondas spin backwards. Scratch the Honda comment!
Oh, I built a V8 Volvo wagon, too...so don't think I'm a hater on swaps. Just use your head. Good luck!
I put a 1.8 DOHC mazda engine in my Festiva and destroyed it by cutting into framerails and beefing them back up, only to find out I didn't do it well enough. Then guys after me found out the 1.6 SOHC turbo fit directly and made more power. Didn't look as cool but my point is that it might make more sense to look at a more logical swap (even a Honda 1.6, with tons of aftermarket support) that might physically fit better and you're mods are basically mounts and inboard c.v. joints.
just remembered...I think Hondas spin backwards. Scratch the Honda comment!
Oh, I built a V8 Volvo wagon, too...so don't think I'm a hater on swaps. Just use your head. Good luck!
Last edited by turbo740; 08-03-2008 at 06:20 PM. Reason: brain fart
#120
I've been watching the NHRA since I was 10, into musclecars since I was probably 11 and I get it. But I still wouldn't do it. And I am happy with my N/A 1.6, the 100hp it makes and the 31mpg I get in the city. And I still wouldn't do it. Even if the SRT-4 drivetrain bolted right in, I wouldn't bastardize my car with a Neon motor. It's a dual cam turbo 4 banger. How many times has that been done in the past. My dream swap? Caged, tube chassis classic Mini, wide as all get out flares, 4 wheel discs, converted to rear drive with a 10,000RPM capable SHO motor.
#121
I just thought of something. We have a car originally made in GB that houses a motor made in Brazil. It's kind of a bastard to begin with. Then again, when was the last time a car featured 100% of it's parts made in 1 country. Oh, and the sound of a SHO's secondaries opening is an audible orgasm. Now put that sound in an 1100lb Classic.
#122
I pondered this and some other similar swaps a while back. Unless you want to do some serious fabrication, it's not going to happen. IF you're really interested in the 2.4 turbo, look to the PT Cruiser turbo. It's a more compact engine bay, closer in size to the mini. More restrictive intake and exhaust because of this (and therefore less power) but it'll probably fit better.
#123
Slight top-end differences due to engine bay size. I believe the intercooler is different (a lot smaller) and like as stated, different intake and exhaust setup. Just like the SRT-10 Ram and Viper. The Ram has a different intake manifold due to hood clearance. And the STS-V compared to the XLR-V. The STS makes I think 40hp more due to a different manifold from the XLR having a very low hood line.
#125
This goes back to my original argument. Im asking this mostly for people with a Base model car. NO stock power adders (turbo/sc) and no LSD with a weak tranny. Swap a MCS motor in, lots of money and the resale will plumet, so if your gonna kill resale and blow money on a new motor, it might as well be one that will make big power, more tq and be different than every other MCS on the street. ::shrug:: Maybe Im missing something? If I had a MCS I would twin charge and make power that way, because its cheaper and less headache, but I have a NA 1.6 with a crap tranny. So some may see my argument and other will tell me to sell it and by a MCS. Either way, it would be awesome to have a mini that breaths fire and sounds like a diesel truck (aka SRT4 )