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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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"The latest service category rating for gasoline engines is "SM", introduced in November 2004 for 2005 and newer engines. SM-rated oils along with the previous "SL" (2001) and "SJ" (1997) ratings, are backwards compatible and can be safely used in older engines. But the opposite is not true. Older obsolete service classifications (SH, SG, SF, etc.) may not meet OEM lubrication requirements for newer engines. Likewise, API SL oils should not be used in 2005 and later vehicles, and SJ oils should not be used in 2001 and newer vehicles." (http://www.aa1car.com/library/motor_oil_605.htm)
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Sweet! Thanks guys. Sorry for the impatience I had. I just noticed my oil level was a bit lower than it should be and was needing to get some in there quickly. :-)
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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..Mobil1 0-40.....the only AEAC A3 spec......every 5000 miles.....
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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NoModMini, I don't believe you. That Mini in your pic has had some MAJOR mods.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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NoModMini, I don't believe you. That Mini in your pic has had some MAJOR mods.
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...oh yeah....i forgot.....turned it around....and added some body work
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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I thought that was a Porsche..................................
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Just ordered some Royal Purple 5w40.

Here is what the description says:
"Royal Purple 5W40 motor oil delivers all of the performance of other Royal Purple motor oils plus meets API SM & CF and ACEA A2 - 96 & A3-02 (European) requirements. 5W-40 is become more widely used and demand is growing rapidly for this viscosity. Not intended for diesel applications."
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Mobil 1 0-30, change every 12K.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NoModMini
..Mobil1 0-40.....the only AEAC A3 spec......every 5000 miles.....
Mobil 1 0W-40, AND German Castrol 0W-30 are ACEA A3/B3 & BMW LL-01 spec oils.

The next best thing is the BMW supplied Castrol 5W-30. it's NOT the same as the USA off the shelf Castrol 5W-30. USA 5W-30 does not meet the specs....

At a min. buy the BMW supplied stuff. Otherwise, anything that meets ACEA A3/B3 and BMW LL-01 will suffice.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure changing to Royal Purple gave my '03 MC a few extra horsepower.....maybe.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Need some advice. Is the Royal Purple European formula (5W40) OK to use in an R56 MINI? The manual calls for 5W30, but isn't the R56 engine european?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Royal Purple
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rrcaniglia
Need some advice. Is the Royal Purple European formula (5W40) OK to use in an R56 MINI? The manual calls for 5W30, but isn't the R56 engine european?
the "spec's" will set you free... if it's ACEA A3/B3 & BMW LL-01, all is well.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Amsoil 5W-40 European Formula
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Currently, Amsoil 5W-40 Euro also, since passing the warranty and free
service periods.
Previously, had alternated between MINI 5W30 (when free via the dealer),
and Mobil 1 extended 5W30.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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I use Royal Purple because their advertising about increased HP sounded good.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by resmini
I use Royal Purple because their advertising about increased HP sounded good.
naw... that's Slick 50....
 
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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I bring this back up because YOU DON"T WANT ANOTHER OIL THREAD!!!!!

But there are many here stating that Castrol Syntec (US Formula) does not meet the Spec. However I find the bottle says it meets A5 and B5 and also says so at their site: "Exceeds European ACEA: A1, A5, B1, B5,... and all requirements of ILSAC GF-4" http://www.castrolsyntec.com/grades.aspx

A5 is a newer higher rating is it not? Designed for long drain intervals too IIRC.

So is this new or what?
 

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rrcaniglia
"The latest service category rating for gasoline engines is "SM", introduced in November 2004 for 2005 and newer engines. SM-rated oils along with the previous "SL" (2001) and "SJ" (1997) ratings, are backwards compatible and can be safely used in older engines. But the opposite is not true. Older obsolete service classifications (SH, SG, SF, etc.) may not meet OEM lubrication requirements for newer engines. Likewise, API SL oils should not be used in 2005 and later vehicles, and SJ oils should not be used in 2001 and newer vehicles." (http://www.aa1car.com/library/motor_oil_605.htm)
This is what interest me. If our cars have been around since 2001 does that mean they were originally specced for SL oil?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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I just put 5QTS of Mobil 1 Extended Life (the gold cap) Full Synthetic 5W-30 on my first self made oil change. :-)
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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What do you guys think of the Walmart Synthetic oil (Super Tech) which is apparently Exxon/Penzoil depending on what coast you're on.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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Stick with BMW Castrol, Mobil 1 euro, Royal Purple, or Ams. I wouldn't use Exxon/Penz in my old jeep
 
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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there is always redline. whenever i end up doing my own oil, that's what i'll use
 
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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I used to use Mobil 1 5w-30, but the OEM Castrol is cheaper for me and the dealer is on my way to work so I've switched over to that.
 
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