Ever since I got my G35 I have wondered, How well would it do against a modded MCS? Right now my G35 coupe has intake and Exhaust I say it has around 294-296hp. How would a Mini that is well modded do against it. Im talking straight line performance, we already know the Mini is the best in the twists. I think it would be a close race, since the G35 is pretty heavy. Any thoughts?

 

Stock MCS low 15s @90+ in the 1/4 modded would be anywhere from 11.5-14.5 Whats the G run?

 

The MINI is not a drag car, (except for just ONE, Fireball Tim's M600, which went a 10.62 this year at Englishtown, NJ). That car is a purpose-built drag racer.

But a lightly modified or even heavily modified MINI is still a relatively low-horsepower, front-wheel-drive car. The only possible advantage we have is lower weight.

I would have to assume the G35 would win in a drag race, being close to 300 HP and rear-wheel drive.

This is, of course, taking the driver's reaction time and skills out of the argument.

 

from a standstill to 60mph my MCS does pretty well vs stock G's, about
the same running a 15% I/E and SSR Comps but anything above 60mph,
i don't know. from data sheets, i think the G will exponentially pull ahead.
why don't you take it to the track and find out?

but from a rolling start say 25-35mph... forget it. the G pulls in 2nd
and 3rd hard. same goes for on the hwy. the torque is just
not there on a 1.6L 4 banger with just a few bolt-ons to make a
relaxing pass. you'll have to be 'on it' to make the MCS accelerate.

anyway, drive safe. no street racing.

 

Per C&D, which tends to bash its cars to get the lowest numbers, 2004 G35 coupe, 0 -60 6.2. JCW MINI is 6.4

I guess you have your answer

 

Depends on the mods. A stock JCW would be fairly close. A more aggresively modded MCS may actually beat the G35. An MCS with a head, header, catback, weight reduction, pulley and good ECU remap could very possibly beat a stock G35 coupe.

Driver skill being equal, it really would be closer than most people think. I've seen a few 350/G35s at the track. Except for the ones that are fully race prepped, I had no trouble pulling on them in the straights when I had my MCS (212 whp) - and yes I knew the driver's and yes they were trying to beat me to the next trun.

I've seen published G35 numbers at anywhere from 14.3 to 14.6 in the 1/4 mile and JCW/GP numbers ranging from 14.3 to 14.5.

It's safe to say either of them would absloutely smoke a Volkswagen Boxster, er um, Cayman...

 

20 mph roll through bottom of 4th gear, I pull 1-3 cars on G35's with my mods and water/alcohol intercooler sprayer.

 

Without a doubt

Serious question: Why does everyone talk about a properly modded MINI but whatever they are comparing it against is stock? What happens when the thing they are comparing it against is also properly modified ... say to the same percentage in power, tires, and suspension. Its as if MINI "needs" a head start to compete.

While you always read ... what about a xx car vs a yy car. I never read ... "hey will my modded 330i smoke a lexus 350?" Why can't the Lexus 350i be modded to? This is especially true about the RFs. Whenever anyone reads the average slalom speeds of a MCS the first comment is "take off the RFs" but the cars ahead of the MINI can also change tires and still be ahead.

I just dont get the need to have a "head start". Ever watch Pinks? ... Yeah, I'll give you 11 lengths, and one stage on the Nitro

 

I think a twincharged Mcs would kill the G35 in a striaght line. I think even a Jcw might take it.

 

Do you mean one of these guys ? ----


Get him in the corners. They're heavy and wallow around a lot.

 

Proper comparison should be to a turbo or twincharged G35 (serious power).

 

Why are you continuing to compare apples against oranges?

Compare OEM vs OEM. If you want to compare a heavily modified MINI against another car, compare it against a similarly heavily modified "other car"

Why do you insist on giving the MINI a half mile head start?

 

While an OEM vs OEM comparison would be nice, the G35 starts at almost $34k. That's over $10k more than your average MCS costs (with quite a few options). They aren't on a balanced playing field to begin with. You could twincharge a MINI for cheaper than a base G35 costs!

 

I wanted to compare these two cars because if you look at my signature you can see I own a G35 and also a Mini. Thats the only reason I wish to know. I wouldnt compare them OEM because no joke the G35 would blow the doors off the MCS. However, a modded MCS would do well against it.

 

Make it a full-fledged JCW package. That makes it just about equal........right?

By the way, Chows, the OP asked for an apples to oranges comparison.

If you want a base MCS to G35 Coupe comparo, it's no contest.

 

Because it needs one.

 

'cause it's his thread and he chose the subject "Modded MCS Vs. G35 Coupe"

You can always start an OEM vs OEM thread though

 

Do not encourage our little post *****.

 

Sorry Jtrem, that is what you asked for. Just wondering.

So often I read ... well I modded MINI agains ... a pinto ...
I just never read .... compare my modded MINI against a SRT4 stage 4. Oh wait ... that troll is over in the 1/4 mile vid thread

 

well, we may have an answer to this before too long, a challenge was proposed last night while we were out, one that I think might be a chance for the mini to win. My wife challenged a friend of ours who has a 2005 G35 coupe with an auto trans, bone stock. Whenever they post their schedule for the new year, we're gonna go up to piedmont dragway, the closest drag strip to us, and run it versus my wife's 2006 JCW MCS. Its just an 1/8 mile track, which I think bodes well for the mini (since aerodynamics don't come into play hardly at all). 1/4 mile I'd put my money on the G, but 1/8 mile, the mini can take advantage of its limited slip and better gearing, and manual trans to hopefully beat it in the 60 ft time, cuz once rolling, the JCW MCS actually has a slight superior power to weight ratio (12.3 lbs/hp as opposed to 12.5 lbs/hp for the G or that year, assuming 280 hp/3500 lbs for the G and 210/2600 lbs for the MCS JCW).
I'm really interested to see, whenever we get around to actually setting it up, I'll update you guys and let you know. . .

 

Sounds interesting - it may answer the question if a JCW fits the OPs idea of 'well modded'

 

Don't worry Chows. I was just curious. I know I post "odd" or nonsense threads. Its just mainly because Im ethier bored or curious.

 

Same reason I'd give a Dodge Ram SRT a Head start at a road course, same reasona Ferrari would give a P-car a head start at a road course. Same reason a stock MCS and stock Boxter and I'd give the MCS decent odds with simimlarly skilled drivers

Besides I'd say 90% of those that ethier go to the track or are on the forums have modded car. (I know we only represent less than 10% of the owners blah blah blah; but the rest of the owners aren't going to the track on the weekend ethier) The G is a car you're more likely to see in a much closer to stock form so it is also a much more realistic/ likely real world comparison.

Also for slolam tests if you ditch the RFs on the MINI and you go to the next car you want to compare it already doen't have RFs then guess what you don't need to change those tires now run them against each other, see how much closer things are when the test is equally prepared not quantity modded who does the prep work I don't really care, thats why classing systems are detailed and vary car to car. Its the same Reason that Daytona Prototypes and Grand Touring cars are separated.

 

Take a look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-ZDGjPFfg

I'm not going to give away the ending but a TT is on par with the Z06.

 

********. Thats kinda insulting considering the effort I put forth to get my car do do what it does.





Straight line is much more fun that turns anyday.


I think the S with a few mods and a stocker G would be fairly close.


Feel free to come out and race me if you please, I could use a new winter car.