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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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If this is just a small land tank,

like a shrunk Volvo of the past, it will fade. But if it lives up to it's potential, I think we'll all be thinking of Volvo a bit differently over time..... If the C30 were AWD it would really move in large numbers!

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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Top Gear did a test drive of the C30. It can be found here.

"Luckily, it's about more than design though. Sorry if this sounds grudging, but I was genuinely surprised by how well it drives. Volvo's sporty cars have usually had wooden suspension, torque steer and poor traction. The C30 trades that crudeness for something altogether more sophisticated."

BTW, the dreaded plastic trim mentioned in the article can be optioned out with either body color or contrasting painted panels. Then again my MINI has black plastic trim as well (luckily my car is black).
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by clarkdr81
I think my love for quirky and different cars is one reason why I ended up buying a MINI.
you didn't own a Gremlin back in the late 70's/early 80's, did you?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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I got a used 75 Fiat 124 Spyder

in 1988 or so... Does that count?

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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
you didn't own a Gremlin back in the late 70's/early 80's, did you?
I said quirky, not hideous!

Speaking of hideous I saw an old AMC Pacer the other day
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
You need to watch Speedvision and see the Volvos running in front othe BMWs etc
That has happened exactly once. In the rain IIRC. They usually break before the race is over. I believe they have transmission issues. To much power for the gearbox.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by clarkdr81
I said quirky, not hideous!

Speaking of hideous I saw an old AMC Pacer the other day



eek.. pacer...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Crashton
That has happened exactly once. In the rain IIRC. They usually break before the race is over. I believe they have transmission issues. To much power for the gearbox.
Hater

A win is a win...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by clarkdr81
Hater

A win is a win...
Me a hater? No way, I just wanted to set the record straight on their Speed series record. They have a great record in British touring cars, but their record here is abysmal. But you are right, yes they fell into one win.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Crashton
But you are right, yes they fell into one win.
You've got to forgive a Volvo enthusiast for being excited about stuff like that. Volvo's aren't exactly known for their racing heritage Any move in a positive direction as far as increasing Volvo's performance is good news for me (although the 1980s tanks will still always be dear to my heart)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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I'm a Volvo fan too, but of the older models, 544, 122 & P1800. Now those were great cars.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Crashton
I'm a Volvo fan too, but of the older models, 544, 122 & P1800. Now those were great cars.
Yep those were the glory years for Volvo, although IMHO they are entering a great era with some of their current and upcoming models. So far Ford hasn't ruined Volvo, in fact their ownership of Volvo has allowed more new models to be developed and I love the look of the C30, C70, and the new S80. Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who will disagree with me, the C30 and S80 were both included on the list of the world's most beautiful cars, so those whose opinions actually count do agree with me ( jk)
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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I agree Ford hasn't screwed up Volvo. In fact I think Fords relationship with Volvo has helped Ford come out with some better cars. They are sharing some platforms, now if they would use some of Volvo's engines.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Take a look at the rear quarter view of the C30 from the back...

Originally Posted by Crashton
I'm a Volvo fan too, but of the older models, 544, 122 & P1800. Now those were great cars.
and it SCREAMS P1800! A friend has one and the resemblence is strong....

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
and it SCREAMS P1800! A friend has one and the resemblence is strong....
That's what they were going for It even has an all-glass tailgate...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
and it SCREAMS P1800! A friend has one and the resemblence is strong....

Matt
Well it doesn't scream P1800 to me. More like a wisper for me...psst, hey buddy look at my posterior. I do think it's a nice car. The P1800 coupes were the ones I lusted for. The P1800 ES was kind of like her fat sister.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Yea I think Volvo went with a few subtle stying cues that related to past models rather than going full-on retro, as has been the rage in recent years.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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The S60R competes in the Speedvision touring series does it not? Either way, its a badass car, and its engine isn't that far different from the T5 in the C30, yet it makes a full 300 hp in the s60R. Sounds like potential to me. . .
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rubyred3
and its engine isn't that far different from the T5 in the C30, yet it makes a full 300 hp in the s60R. Sounds like potential to me. . .
If you haven't seen the C30s that were at SEMA I highly recommend checking them out. Volvo gave a C30 to three of the big Volvo tuners and they created some interesting cars. The one with the lowest output had 300hp and the Evolve C30 had 507hp. Here's the link the press release and if you look around on the site there are pictures and more details about each C30. But there is definitely some potential to make it a really fun car.

Also, Fifth Gear drove the C30 and the video can be found here. Favorite line, "My God, I'm smiling and driving a Volvo quickly, what's going on here?"
 
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