The mere fact that you posted this means you watched the commercial and it made you think ... hence successful at getting your attention ... it doesn't matter if the attention is negative or positive ... merely that you noticed it.

 

^^ it matters if I deliberately purchase a Fit based on my disdain for the Yaris ad...

 

If I remember correctly, the Fit ads are even worse.

 

But you see, there are SO many ads, nobody pays attention to any of them. Most ppl fast forward though taped shows or go hit the head or get a drink or change the station. The mere fact you remembered the name is a success.

In fact, this is a life lesson! It doesn't matter if it was good or bad because 10 years from now you will remember the Yaris name but forget what was in the ad!

 

"the FIT is GO!" ??!?!?!?!???

But really OnToast, if you get a worse car because of an add, then shame on you. But then again....

My mom had this wonderful thing. She had a roll of shelf paper tacked to the wall behind her TV. When there was an add that was too insulting to the viewers intelligence, up went the product! She called it her "Do Not Buy" list... IT was prompted by an add for a baby doll that would **** itself...


Matt

 

I just saw the Yaris add with the piggy bank....it was AMAZING. I thought it was very clever.

I almost want a Yaris to have as a beater, I really like em. Dont ask...

 

Yeh, i looked at the damage when i got home (wasn't raining like this morning)
and it's not that bad... the quarter panel was a little dented but i already pushed
it out with my PDR tools...i hate bondo and the idea of painting the ENTIRE side
of my car just to get out a quarter sized dent. Im thinking about just fixing it
on my own this time and sending my insurance co to talk to the UPS insurance
for reimbursement. it's gonna probably cost me no more than $350 to fix.

my mpg has been about 37 latetly and still only in break-in. It' suppose
to do 40mpg highway.

 

It will! Honda knows how to build a fuel-efficient car. I had an '88 Integra with 165k miles, and it got 40+ mpg on the highway. Hondas also don't have the built-in rolling resistance that MINIs have.

 

looks like a corrola more than an echo to me.

 

I had a '89 Honda Accord LX sedan 5-speed (Last year of the third generation with the pop up headlights) that gave me nearly 48 MPG in the highway. I bought the car brand new for about $14,500 which was a lot of dough for a compact Japanese car in those days.

It had one of the last carburated engines offered in the Accord, a 2.0L 12 Valve SOHC unit rated at 98HP. The car had almost no torque or power from standstil but the fuel mileage was amazing at the time.

If you wanted a fuel injected '89 Accord, you had to step up to the LX-i model and the HP rating went up to 120HP.

In 1990 Honda introduced the larger/heavier 4th gen Accord and all models received a fuel injected 2.2L SOHC 4cyl engine. DX and LX models were rated at 125HP and the EX model (Which replaced the LX-i) went up to 130HP.

Kept the car for 7 years and the car was reliable but had lots of problems with the brakes and the A/C.

It was traded for a '95 Integra LS sedan, 1.8L DOHC 142HP mated to a 5-speed. Nice car but it was crushed when it was less than a year old.

 

I guess pretty soon, you're gonna know the answer to "What can brown do for you?"

 

I also would never buy a Yaris. I think Toyota is taking too many styling cues from cars on The Simpsons. They're getting duller and squarer and that goofy dip-down grille treatment on the Yaris and Camry is stupid.

If I were limited to 12,000 to spend, I'd get a used car---a 1992 Crown Vic for 2,000, then I'd have 10K to spend on the PERFECT set of 24 inch rims.

 

So is there a differance between the Yaris the matrix and the Xa or is Toyota milking this with yet another badge so they don't have to desgin anyything non cookie cutter.

 

Isn't it interesting, though, how well Toyota sells with their methods. Aren't they like the number one in sales now?

 

Well they're average customer has the money for cars I think they are going to becime the new Cadillac. I think if they're marketing was working they wouldn't need to start a whole new brand to sell a Camry (basically a Tc) and Matrix (Xa) to the "younger crowd".

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

The Camry is a large boring family size sedan. The tC is a subcompact with a high HP engine and (supposedly) sporty styling to market to the under 21 crowd.

The Matrix is a very capable and roomy hatchback that is actually enjoyable to drive due to the surprisingly firm suspension. The xA is a tiny, tinny econobox that's basic transportation, nothing more (a la Tercel).

Maybe some of these vehicles share Toyota platforms/parts, but they're all quite different from each other.

 

I've been in a Camry more than I'd care to admit and the only differeance I noticed between that and the tC was the leg room; but the tC is still a long wide and heavy car, did I mention I AM the demographic that Toyota targeted this brand for: never have I associated the word Sporty with the tC. (nor did I think I'd be using them in the same sentance) The tC makes less HP than a MCS from a 2.4L and weighs 200lbs more; and from looking in the hot hatch class, the MINI is noticeably underpowered compared to its peers, so I don't think of a tC as anything more than a rebadged Camry (ok maybe a I should have said Camry Solara).

Is there any differance between an xA and a Yaris? And when I sit in and look at them I see 3 hatchbacks with high centers of gravity, little power. Saying the firmer suspension makes it sporty, does that mean that changing to the JCW springs on an MCS and MINI should rename it, to sell it as a sportier version?

In my book taking a car chaging a handful of parts and the name doesn't make it a completely different vehicle with the excpetion of engine or transmission. All the basics are the same, just different dressings. I consider all of the MINIs to be the same basic vehicle with small changes, and as a targeted consumer I can't see a significant differance between the Toyota models. I'm not required to be an expert on the subject to know that they're marketing is no matter of genius, and I can say as I am reminded how much I hate they're product each time I sit in a Toyota, and I didn't even consider them when in the market for a car less than a year ago then they're marketing has failed to, because if it didn't I would have at least taken one for a test drive.

 

Not much, except that the Yaris also comes in sedan form and the hatch is more attractive than the xA.

But that's not what you said before; you said that the xA was basically a Matrix, when in reality the Matrix is a much more substantial, satisfying vehicle.

Just wanted to clear the differences up for those who aren't familiar with all of these vehicles.

 

And the sedan form; based onthe exterior photo ends up looking quite a bit like the Camry. As a targeted consumer, thats not enough of a differance for be to consider looking at Toyota over another brand.

I still cannont tell the differance between an xA and a Martix, the only way I can separate the Yaris is sligtly different body panels and less leg room (3 not 5 doors). If the only differance is suspension and changing the seats then I'm soory than to me that is still the same car, but with leather and sport packages, yes it may be more gratifying (for some) to have the extra bits Thats the same as a loaded MC vs a bare bines MC. But Toyota hasn't taken a platform and made two cars that share a few parts:they've taken one car changed a few parts, one of which was the name badge.

 

You obviously haven't driven or even sat in both cars. Comparing the Matrix to the xA is roughly akin to comparing the MINI to the SMART car. They're in completely different classes. Toyota is obviously relying on uninformed young buyers to purchase the xA, because it makes no sense to do so when the Matrix is only marginally more expensive.

 

Recently I've avoided time in a Toyota as much as possible, but I've also sat in them back to back and was quite pleased to get out of each and had no desire to return, 7 months since last in an xA and about a year or so since being in a Matrix.

 

i was talking about this whole Yaris/Fit weird commercial thing yesterday. i even went to both Toyota and Honda's websites and looked at them both.

i think they're interesting, though ugly.

 

 

I wonder what Toyota and Honda thinks about all this bashing as they gleefully count their money in the bank since they pretty much rule the automotive industry in terms of sales.

 

with a little body kit this car can look very nice. I see the potential.