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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kaelaria
Believe it or not, the Mini is at least 3x heavier than some others, like our New Beetle! That thing is so light you just rest your foot on it, and it's almost to the floor! Absolutely no feel through it either, really a poor driver's setup. The mini outshines just about every car I've ever driven with respect to petal feel and feedback!
My G35C's clutch is about 2x heavier than my 03' MCS clutch.

The MCS clutch feel is okay, but the pedal position is not good.
ive mentioned this many times before, but the pedal is too close
to the floor (not talking about the engagement point). It was
one of the most difficult pedal positions to get use to at first.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ahamos
I don't have a link. I downloaded the video some time ago, and have it on my computer at work. I did that because I can never remember where I find stuff on the Internet.
I found it: http://gamelle71.free.fr/m3_gtr_nurb...tdrive.org.wmv . He's an amazing driver. The gearbox is definitely straight cut (from the sound) but it seems like it is syncro'd to allow shifting that fast. Syncros don't last very long on straight cut boxes but for a race car, I guess it doesn't matter as it's going to be re-built after the race.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kapps
I found it: http://gamelle71.free.fr/m3_gtr_nurb...tdrive.org.wmv . He's an amazing driver. The gearbox is definitely straight cut (from the sound) but it seems like it is syncro'd to allow shifting that fast. Syncros don't last very long on straight cut boxes but for a race car, I guess it doesn't matter as it's going to be re-built after the race.
That guy is ridiculous! ::Drool:: And, OMFG, that car is FAST! ::Double Drool::
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kapps
I found it: http://gamelle71.free.fr/m3_gtr_nurb...tdrive.org.wmv . He's an amazing driver. The gearbox is definitely straight cut (from the sound) but it seems like it is syncro'd to allow shifting that fast. Syncros don't last very long on straight cut boxes but for a race car, I guess it doesn't matter as it's going to be re-built after the race.
Holy crap! I don't even see his leg moving to shift! How is that even possible? The car's not clutching for him, is it?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ahamos
While I certainly don't recommend anyone try this, I learned a lot about technique in my old 94 Jetta III. If I wanted to up-shift, I could--without touching the clutch--pull the shifter out of gear, watch the tach. fall 800 RPM, and push the shifter into the next gear.

This was smooth as glass, when done right, but made a horrid noise when done wrong.
Is not the purpose of the clutch to allow you to match the RPMs to the gearing without destroying the gear box? I've done this many times (sometimes by accident!)
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by greatgro
I totally agree. My new 05 Mustang GT has a clutch pedal that's three times heavier with twice the travel of the MCS. When I've been driving the GT a ton (like I have) I find my first few shifts are very choppy - the clutch pedal gets to the floor faster than I'm expecting and the clutch engages with the new gear way before I'm expecting also.:smile:
Try the clutch on an older 911. MUCH MUCH heavier than a MINI. MINI clutch is nothing ... and friction point is to high.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blalor
Holy crap! I don't even see his leg moving to shift! How is that even possible? The car's not clutching for him, is it?
There is no clutch pedal. It's a straight-cut gear-box, and I've heard that the transmission alone costs around $20K.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ahamos
There is no clutch pedal. It's a straight-cut gear-box, and I've heard that the transmission alone costs around $20K.
So basically, he's timed the shift speed so that he will be perfectly matched to the next gear. The amazing part is the downshifting where he's basically double clutching without the clutch. Perfect for racing conditions...man that flywheel must be light .
 
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Perfect Shifting

Smoothness is the key, it is all about synchronizing. It took quite some time for me to get to smoothness. The best way to start is to quit looking at the rpm, you have nothing to the with the rpm, just listen to the motor, when you shift try losing less and less rpms between the gears, use shifter fast.

It takes time and you become obsessed with it, but ain't nothin' like a smooth power shift, it gives maximum driving experience both to the driver and passengers.

PS: I talk like a master, but nothing close to it, I am still learning, thanks to a buddy of mine who has been racing forever.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Great Stuff Guys! Always good to get driving tips.This thread is a great example of why this site is awesome. The guy in the M3 is a wicked good driver and the on board camera is a perfect way to enjoy his skills. Thanks for that link.
 
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