Dodge Challenger
Dodge Challenger
WTheck??? Just checked one of these out at the dealer, they where asking $65,000
Are they serious? This is a limited production, but will it appreciate like an old one? What you think?
I believe MSRP is about $37,995 for the SRT-8 Challenger. I went in about 6 months ago to put a deposit on one at my local friendly So Cal dealer. And was told that the dealership is not accepting deposits. Translation: We plan to sell at the highest possible market price when we receive ours.
Sure enough, the first two went for over MSRP. The first one, all black, allegedly sold for $30K over MSRP and the second one sold for $10K over.
But I agree with ngweibing, the prices should adjust soon to near MSRP, with the current gas situation.
I simply will not pay over MSRP for any vehicle.
Sure enough, the first two went for over MSRP. The first one, all black, allegedly sold for $30K over MSRP and the second one sold for $10K over.
But I agree with ngweibing, the prices should adjust soon to near MSRP, with the current gas situation.
I simply will not pay over MSRP for any vehicle.
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When I first saw the Challenger was coming out, I went to Northwest Dodge in Houston.
I was told they were getting 5, total.
They were taking $1000, non-refundable deposits. THAT would get your name thown in a hat so you could attend an auction for the 5 cars?!?
They said the cars would probably go for $10K to $25K over MSRP of $38K.
I said......*()&_*&(***
and promptly ordered my MCS.
After getting 42.3 mpg on a recent trip and dyno'ing 215 whp, I think this was WAY more smiles than the Challenger would have been.
But, YRMV.
I was told they were getting 5, total.
They were taking $1000, non-refundable deposits. THAT would get your name thown in a hat so you could attend an auction for the 5 cars?!?
They said the cars would probably go for $10K to $25K over MSRP of $38K.
I said......*()&_*&(***
and promptly ordered my MCS.
After getting 42.3 mpg on a recent trip and dyno'ing 215 whp, I think this was WAY more smiles than the Challenger would have been.
But, YRMV.
Yeah, it's just the dealers gouging their customers. Some people are willing to pay a premium to the first on the block with one. At this years Barret Jackson auction a guy paid $1 million for the first Corvette ZR1 off the production line.
I have seen a couple of Challengers on the road now, very pretty car, but man is that thing big. Struck me as more of an old man's car, something to cruise in, but too big to be a lot of fun.
I have seen a couple of Challengers on the road now, very pretty car, but man is that thing big. Struck me as more of an old man's car, something to cruise in, but too big to be a lot of fun.
They are not selling, prices will be coming down soon.
From Motor Authority:
'Despite claims at the car’s debut that the run of 6,400 2008 Challenger SRT8s had almost sold out, the truth is that many of them are still available. The problem could be, at least in part, driven by dealer markups, though the general downturn in the U.S. market is also likely playing a role.
Over 760 of the cars are still available for sale, according to Automotive News, and a fair amount of those are priced above the $37,995 MSRP. Even a few of the dedicated fans that put down $5,000 deposits almost a year ago are changing their minds about the purchase, however, due to the car’s high fuel consumption and rising prices.
With EPA rated fuel economy of just 13mpg city and 18mpg highway and a combined rating of 15mpg the Challenger is a thirsty beast - and that’s before you start trying to set new record 0-60mph times. Drive the car vigorously and expect to see a significant drop in efficiency as the 6.1L Hemi V8 musters the force necessary to hurl the 4,100lb (1,863kg) chassis through the thick atmosphere.'
From Motor Authority:
'Despite claims at the car’s debut that the run of 6,400 2008 Challenger SRT8s had almost sold out, the truth is that many of them are still available. The problem could be, at least in part, driven by dealer markups, though the general downturn in the U.S. market is also likely playing a role.
Over 760 of the cars are still available for sale, according to Automotive News, and a fair amount of those are priced above the $37,995 MSRP. Even a few of the dedicated fans that put down $5,000 deposits almost a year ago are changing their minds about the purchase, however, due to the car’s high fuel consumption and rising prices.
With EPA rated fuel economy of just 13mpg city and 18mpg highway and a combined rating of 15mpg the Challenger is a thirsty beast - and that’s before you start trying to set new record 0-60mph times. Drive the car vigorously and expect to see a significant drop in efficiency as the 6.1L Hemi V8 musters the force necessary to hurl the 4,100lb (1,863kg) chassis through the thick atmosphere.'
Last edited by minicar3; Jul 29, 2008 at 05:12 PM. Reason: added additional info
They pulled the same crap with the SSR when it came out. I was just looking at one at the dealership when we were shopping for my wife's car and they had it stickered at $55k. The sales guy told me how it would be a "collector's item". I thought to myself "Oh yeah, like all the recent Chevy's".
I had a 2006 Jeep Commander 5.7L HEMI engine that I used for offroading. It had a 18.5 gallon tank. I think the range was worse than my 96 Cobra. I was at the gas station all the time, I couldn't stand it.
It's hard not to put your foot in it most of the time since the engine is so fun and strong, but there is no doubt about it, the HEMI's use a ton of fuel. It even had the cylinder de-activation, but didn't seem to make much difference with my driving style.
It's hard not to put your foot in it most of the time since the engine is so fun and strong, but there is no doubt about it, the HEMI's use a ton of fuel. It even had the cylinder de-activation, but didn't seem to make much difference with my driving style.
We have a Hummer dealer here in Fresno and I don't think I have seen one of them move in a couple months
I was really looking forward to this one. all the photos looked like it really kept the spirit of the original car.
Unfortunately I saw one on the road last week and it just looked "plasticy" like a life size Tonka version of the original (I felt the same way about the current mustangs when they came out)
Honestly of the reborn muscle cars I'd put the New (and now deceased) GTO as my favorite. The Mustang, and Challenger are like a cover band. Yeah they're fun but are a poor substitute for the original. The GTO was like an old band coming back with an awesome new album with a fresh new sound. Unfortunately the die hard fans didn't want something new no matter how good it was.
Unfortunately I saw one on the road last week and it just looked "plasticy" like a life size Tonka version of the original (I felt the same way about the current mustangs when they came out)
Honestly of the reborn muscle cars I'd put the New (and now deceased) GTO as my favorite. The Mustang, and Challenger are like a cover band. Yeah they're fun but are a poor substitute for the original. The GTO was like an old band coming back with an awesome new album with a fresh new sound. Unfortunately the die hard fans didn't want something new no matter how good it was.
I seriously hope no one's buying the new Challenger with future collector value as one of their criteria.
An initial run of 6,400 essentially-identical cars isn't the kind of situation that leads to high values in the future. If you look at the 60's/70's muscle cars that are commanding the crazy-high prices today, they're usually the cars that are *truly* rare, often because they were outfitted with unpopular options when they were new. An example is the 1971 Hemicuda. The 426 Hemi engine was a wildly-expensive option at the time, and it was a fussy/finicky engine that was more suited to racing than street driving, so it didn't make sense to put it in the heaviest body available (the convertible). As as result, Plymouth sold less than a dozen of them, and they're worth $1 million or more today.
An initial run of 6,400 essentially-identical cars isn't the kind of situation that leads to high values in the future. If you look at the 60's/70's muscle cars that are commanding the crazy-high prices today, they're usually the cars that are *truly* rare, often because they were outfitted with unpopular options when they were new. An example is the 1971 Hemicuda. The 426 Hemi engine was a wildly-expensive option at the time, and it was a fussy/finicky engine that was more suited to racing than street driving, so it didn't make sense to put it in the heaviest body available (the convertible). As as result, Plymouth sold less than a dozen of them, and they're worth $1 million or more today.
I distinctly remember the 12k ADMU (added dealer mark up) on the new PT cruiser when it came out at Bob Dance Jeep/Chrysler in Orlando Florida where I lived. I could not for the life of me understand how they were offering cash back on the things until I saw that. Oh and the 1500 dollars they put on EVERY car in the lot for paint protection and interior protection, what a racket. Peter
I got to say I saw one of these at a recent cruise-in and it looked very good under the hood. Everything was nicely organized and there was actually space to work on the engine. It almost looked like a 60s engine bay. This is one thing I like about the Mustang and the Challenger both, they are making an effort to make a pleasing engine bay.
Nothing worse than popping the hood on a new car and seeing sea of plastic. I don't understand auto makers now, most of the engines are really high tech but they love to cover everything with plastic. Look at an old E-type Jaguar or an Alfa, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Nothing worse than popping the hood on a new car and seeing sea of plastic. I don't understand auto makers now, most of the engines are really high tech but they love to cover everything with plastic. Look at an old E-type Jaguar or an Alfa, you'll see what I'm talking about.
I live 2 blocks from a Dodge dealer and they have had the same 2 Challengers sitting there for at least a month. The economy, impending bankruptcy and reputation does not bode well for Chrysler.
I'll tell you what, Chrysler did a number on the design of this car. I hate Chrysler Motors, but I give them incredible props for the design. Now whether this car is a piece of crap mechanically, I don't know.
On another note, how many of you think that cars today will even be in demand 20-30 years down the road. I think about this quite often when working on the Cooper. It seems years down the road, it's going to be hard and pretty much downright expensive to restore modern cars. With all the computers and advanced components, might make car collecting somewhat of a nightmare in the future. Now days, cars are better running and more efficient, but if you look at them the wrong way, you have a dent in the sheet metal. Cars today just don't seem like something you'd want to restore later. Now, if you keep the car in the garage and never pull it out, that might be a different story.
On another note, how many of you think that cars today will even be in demand 20-30 years down the road. I think about this quite often when working on the Cooper. It seems years down the road, it's going to be hard and pretty much downright expensive to restore modern cars. With all the computers and advanced components, might make car collecting somewhat of a nightmare in the future. Now days, cars are better running and more efficient, but if you look at them the wrong way, you have a dent in the sheet metal. Cars today just don't seem like something you'd want to restore later. Now, if you keep the car in the garage and never pull it out, that might be a different story.
I love the challenger. I actually was at the Dodge dealership yesterday looking at one. THey are having some pretty sweet deals on these cars with the employee pricing, rebates and 0% financing.
If anyone has been interested in a Chally, might want to get into one now. A decently specked R/T at like msrp of 32-33 can be had for high 20's. Thats quite a deal for 375hp.
If anyone has been interested in a Chally, might want to get into one now. A decently specked R/T at like msrp of 32-33 can be had for high 20's. Thats quite a deal for 375hp.
This car is a Chrysler 300/Dodge Magnum/Dodge Charger with a Challenger body.
It looks good, but it is too heavy, doesn't handle all that well and it is a gas guzzler.
Me? I much prefer the Pontiac G8 GT (It replaced the GTO). A co-worker of mine got a new one last month for $27K and change and the car kicks serious ***. 361HP Corvette V8, 6 spd auto, superb fit and finish (Inside and out), roomy, quiet... a sweet machine all around.
It is an Aussie Holden but it kicks any lexus in the fit and finish dept anyday of the week. It handles much better than the Challenger and I like the "sleeper" aspect of it too.
If looking at "Muscle" cars, I highly recommend checking out the G8.
It looks good, but it is too heavy, doesn't handle all that well and it is a gas guzzler.
Me? I much prefer the Pontiac G8 GT (It replaced the GTO). A co-worker of mine got a new one last month for $27K and change and the car kicks serious ***. 361HP Corvette V8, 6 spd auto, superb fit and finish (Inside and out), roomy, quiet... a sweet machine all around.
It is an Aussie Holden but it kicks any lexus in the fit and finish dept anyday of the week. It handles much better than the Challenger and I like the "sleeper" aspect of it too.
If looking at "Muscle" cars, I highly recommend checking out the G8.










