Navigation & Audio [eas] Official DICE High Definition Radio (w/ iPod support) Q/A thread
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Question from before wasn't answered, can you still use a CD changer with this?
And, sorry, one last question after that one (I hope), do you lose the ability to have the auxiliary input option if hook this up?
(would you be able to use this, a CD changer, and still have operational aux input)
Thanks
And, sorry, one last question after that one (I hope), do you lose the ability to have the auxiliary input option if hook this up?
(would you be able to use this, a CD changer, and still have operational aux input)
Thanks
Egads
after looking at these snaps, my cars needs a bath! Where is OctaneGuy when you need him
after looking at these snaps, my cars needs a bath! Where is OctaneGuy when you need him
Fairly easy; the plastic thingy around the rear sun roof pops right out with a little squeeze in the middle. From there I was able to fish a well protected piece of 12g electrical wire in the space between the liner and the roof opening to the door frame. One you get to the door, just gently peal back the rubber grommet and hide the wire all the way down to the passenger side service entrance (picture shown). I am not of the mechanically inclined and the entire process took less than 90 minutes.
If you do a search, there are several DIY threads on folks who have run NAV antenna’s this way. For the ground, I found ample attachment locations under the plastic box that houses the alarm sensor. In my case, I extended the supplied ground wire with a short piece of 12g wire (Contrary to directions).
Last edited by ootah; May 7, 2007 at 04:05 PM. Reason: ...
Question from before wasn't answered, can you still use a CD changer with this?
And, sorry, one last question after that one (I hope), do you lose the ability to have the auxiliary input option if hook this up?
(would you be able to use this, a CD changer, and still have operational aux input)
Thanks
And, sorry, one last question after that one (I hope), do you lose the ability to have the auxiliary input option if hook this up?
(would you be able to use this, a CD changer, and still have operational aux input)
Thanks
Both the DICE and DICE HD have auxiliary inputs as well as Ipod interface and are addressable VIA the head unit controls. As these units use the actual controller for the changer, I do not believe that will be available (vendor question). If you have an HD + AM/FM, Ipod (mass storage of mp3’s), aux input (more mass storage) and mp3 capable single CD player, isn’t an additional CD changer a bit of the department of redundancy department? It’s just a car, a piece of machinery that gets you from point A to B (though with a lot of fun and in style), not your living room.
Can you be more specific about which cars are supported - I've got a 2005 R53 MCSa, I'm not sure what my production date was. Is there a VIN range or other identifying information that can confirm compatibility with early 2005s?
1. Turn Radio Off.
2. Turn Radio On.
3. Press and hold the "m" button for about 10 seconds.
4. Press < or > to navigate, you will need to go to the 2nd screen to look for the SW Verison which is in a SV xx-xx xx format.
5. To be text/HD Radio compatible, the radio must be SW 50 or higher.
6. Turn radio off to exit.
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ootah,
Just trying to make sure I know all the options I have, as I only want to do this once, and do it right from the get go...
No where does it say that the dice hd already has an aux input, so I don't have to buy that one if the dice already has one. I don't own an ipod, and I'd rather use a changer. But, I don't want to buy a changer if there is no where left to plug it in.
Tom's been really good about answering all questions, except for that one (whether or not can still use a changer).
Just trying to make sure I know all the options I have, as I only want to do this once, and do it right from the get go...
No where does it say that the dice hd already has an aux input, so I don't have to buy that one if the dice already has one. I don't own an ipod, and I'd rather use a changer. But, I don't want to buy a changer if there is no where left to plug it in.
Tom's been really good about answering all questions, except for that one (whether or not can still use a changer).
ootah,
Just trying to make sure I know all the options I have, as I only want to do this once, and do it right from the get go...
No where does it say that the dice hd already has an aux input, so I don't have to buy that one if the dice already has one. I don't own an ipod, and I'd rather use a changer. But, I don't want to buy a changer if there is no where left to plug it in.
Tom's been really good about answering all questions, except for that one (whether or not can still use a changer).
Just trying to make sure I know all the options I have, as I only want to do this once, and do it right from the get go...
No where does it say that the dice hd already has an aux input, so I don't have to buy that one if the dice already has one. I don't own an ipod, and I'd rather use a changer. But, I don't want to buy a changer if there is no where left to plug it in.
Tom's been really good about answering all questions, except for that one (whether or not can still use a changer).

The DICE and the changer cannot be used at the same time since the DICE module emulates that device. You will still have in-dash CD capabilities.
Tom
Is there a link to this extension or can I find it here locally? I installed the HD Dice and decided to locate the HD Radio antenna on the rear fixed portion of the sunroof. I snaked the antenna to the rear, where the side panel opens up in the boot. I don't think I have enough slack to locate the dice unit under the passenger seat. So I would need an extension of the antenna wire or the dock connector wire. I bought a extension from radioshack for a computer keyboard connection but the pins are slightly different.
Is there a link to this extension or can I find it here locally? I installed the HD Dice and decided to locate the HD Radio antenna on the rear fixed portion of the sunroof. I snaked the antenna to the rear, where the side panel opens up in the boot. I don't think I have enough slack to locate the dice unit under the passenger seat. So I would need an extension of the antenna wire or the dock connector wire. I bought a extension from radioshack for a computer keyboard connection but the pins are slightly different.
Extension cable for DICE iPod Dock connector (6 feet)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=878
Let me know if you need additional help.
Tom,
I finally had a chance to play around with the HD Dice. I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. When selecting the preset (M1, M2 up to M20) it takes about 10+ seconds for the text to update with the M# selection. Then I press >> for 5+ secs to save it. Is this normal? It just seems like a while before the Track number updates to say the M#
2. Is there a way to clear the presets that have been saved so that I can start over? It took a bit of practice and I think I saved some presets in the wrong locations. I assume I can overwrite them as I go.
3. Regarding the iPod. When I pause the iPod, I hear come clicking noise coming through the speakers. I don't seem to notice when music is playing. any ideas as to what this is or is this normal?
Thanks
DanC
I finally had a chance to play around with the HD Dice. I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. When selecting the preset (M1, M2 up to M20) it takes about 10+ seconds for the text to update with the M# selection. Then I press >> for 5+ secs to save it. Is this normal? It just seems like a while before the Track number updates to say the M#
2. Is there a way to clear the presets that have been saved so that I can start over? It took a bit of practice and I think I saved some presets in the wrong locations. I assume I can overwrite them as I go.
3. Regarding the iPod. When I pause the iPod, I hear come clicking noise coming through the speakers. I don't seem to notice when music is playing. any ideas as to what this is or is this normal?
Thanks
DanC
Tom,
I finally had a chance to play around with the HD Dice. I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. When selecting the preset (M1, M2 up to M20) it takes about 10+ seconds for the text to update with the M# selection. Then I press >> for 5+ secs to save it. Is this normal? It just seems like a while before the Track number updates to say the M#
I finally had a chance to play around with the HD Dice. I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. When selecting the preset (M1, M2 up to M20) it takes about 10+ seconds for the text to update with the M# selection. Then I press >> for 5+ secs to save it. Is this normal? It just seems like a while before the Track number updates to say the M#
Is this pertaining to any iPod commands or engine RPM?
Last edited by tom @ eas; May 15, 2007 at 10:41 AM.
It is not dependant on engine rpm, i dont think. It's most evident when I pause the iPod from the iPod itself and turn the volume up from the head unit.
I think I might try this when I get home because I forgot to disconnect the battery when I installed it. opps. Do you think that might help?
If the battery was not disconnected during installation, it can cause this on some vehicles since it was never properly initialized. Here's what I recommend:
1. Disconnect iPod from cable
2. Remove battery cables, negative first
3. Touch battery cable terminals together (away from battery) for +5 seconds, a small spark is normal as this is stored power draining from the system.
4. Allow cables to remain disconnected for about 5-7 minutes
5. Reconnect battery cables onto battery, negative last.
6. Reboot iPod by pressing on MENU and CENTER buttons for +5 seconds and then reconnecting to the DICE cable after the reboot process is completed.
1. Disconnect iPod from cable
2. Remove battery cables, negative first
3. Touch battery cable terminals together (away from battery) for +5 seconds, a small spark is normal as this is stored power draining from the system.
4. Allow cables to remain disconnected for about 5-7 minutes
5. Reconnect battery cables onto battery, negative last.
6. Reboot iPod by pressing on MENU and CENTER buttons for +5 seconds and then reconnecting to the DICE cable after the reboot process is completed.
Most definitely - give that a try when you have the time.
Great Thread Tom, I saw the Dice unit at your web site, my MC is due in 2nd week of June, I think this will be an early Mod, with your answers and pics one has a very good idea what the final product is all about.
Thanks
Dean
Thanks
Dean
I assume you mean you are getting a 2007 (R56). Tom will have to verify but I believe DICE is not yet available for the R56.
Nothing for R56 yet, we are looking into options.
I'm still a bit unclear on what comes in the package (kit). Is any sort of Ipod cable provided? On the website, there is a "Yes +39.00" selection to include an iPod docking cable. Is that required in order to use an iPod?
On the HD DICE, yes - you need the iPod cable we offer as well if you would like to integrate your iPod. On the standard (non HD) kits, the iPod cable is already included.
Fairly easy; the plastic thingy around the rear sun roof pops right out with a little squeeze in the middle. From there I was able to fish a well protected piece of 12g electrical wire in the space between the liner and the roof opening to the door frame. One you get to the door, just gently peal back the rubber grommet and hide the wire all the way down to the passenger side service entrance (picture shown). I am not of the mechanically inclined and the entire process took less than 90 minutes.
How did you get the wire from behind the pillar into the doorway? I could not find any openings?
You also said to "peel back the rubber grommet"...Do you mean the seal along the door jam? Not real clear here.
Thanks!
Last edited by Sin MINI; Jun 11, 2007 at 07:44 PM.



