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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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was searching all over the place today under the dash, etc, on where i could mount the crossovers. only con's about these components: the crossovers are the size of footballs lol.

well i couldnt find anywhere under the dash, and they wouldnt fit behind the radio, nor the kick panels. and i wanted them hidden, but if i put them in back, that was 2 extra runs of wire i didnt have to run (tweet/mid) so i went and grabed one of my door panels, looked behind, and i notched out an area on both on the inside, they fit VERY snug, and i zip-tied in all 4 corners, and put a piece of felt on the top, just incase it hits the door, which it wont. with the zip-ties, its very tight and snug though. IMO, it came out really clean, and i like it. i also put the felt around the speaker grille becuase that sometimes rattles against the door, and its annoying. common problem with mini's.

let me know what you think.

first off, i marked where i needed to notch for the crossover to sit in the panel. white-out FTW.



then i cut away with the dremel.











felt around speaker grilles:





tomorow i run speaker wire from the amp to the crossover, RCAs/remote wires, and wire for the 6x9s, and remove the factory speakers, HU, amp, etc. then i just gotta wait for my JBL 6x9s, and my Nakamichi HU to arrive, then ill be set!

next project will be sound deading, just the front doors though. for now.

its a slow build though, i only get to work on it after work/school.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Good job! Looks perfect.

In GBMINI#3, the crossovers were simply taped to the outer door skin, just below the crash bar - loads of room there and no chance of getting wet. Your location is great too (it's also where the DPSM crossover fits, although without needing to modify the door panel)
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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crap i forgot about getting wet!!!!!!!

i ordered the baffles to protect my mids, and didnt even think about the crossovers getting wet! should i put duct tape over them or what?

but ya, i thought about putting the crossovers on the other side of the door panel, but i didnt want them to be seen. i want it all hidden. you got pics of the door with the crossovers on the outside of the door though?

and let me know what i can do about not getting them wet.

and thanks for the compliment
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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And I don't think you need to worry about the crossovers getting wet, they're "this side" of the inner door skin so no water should be able to drip on to them
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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oh ya, i forgot about that. scared me for a min lol.

how did that crossover hold up? and i noticed you used the pro60 mids in the stock baffles????? was there an h/k system in that previously or no? cuase i dont think you can get the h/k mids out of the stock baffle...so thats why i made the mdf rings.

also, how did you get the tweets in? got any pointers, seeing as its the same component set i have
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Unless I am picturing it wrong, Ian, the whole inner cavity of the door, where the window lowers into and I think where your crossovers are, can be exposed to water. The chances back there are much lower as I find it enters most at the very front top seam (right above the speaker), but you never know.
Perhaps just covering the contacts with some heat shrink if you care enough.

THe problem with the speakers is the fragile little wires that lead to the inner coil and move with every vibration got wet, oxidized, and broke. Here's a picture.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Thanks Josh ... but since that pic is GBMINI#3, no longer mine, I don't care so much
The location pimpedout has chosen, behind the inner door panel, is definitely more water proof.

Originally Posted by pimpedout97x
how did that crossover hold up? and i noticed you used the pro60 mids in the stock baffles????? was there an h/k system in that previously or no?
I did replace one set of Boston Pros that went a bit distorted - but I was swapping components / crossovers, and couldn't really pin down where the fault was; maybe it was just my ears!

The speaker mounting ring is not the H/K one - it's the part available from MikeyTheMINI.


Originally Posted by pimpedout97x
also, how did you get the tweets in? got any pointers, seeing as its the same component set i have
Since I didn't do the install, and don't now have the car, the only pics are what is in the Gallery (taken by the installer)
You can see a shiny piece in this pic - I'd guess it's the bracket that mounts to the back of the tweeter:
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jwardell
Unless I am picturing it wrong, Ian, the whole inner cavity of the door, where the window lowers into and I think where your crossovers are, can be exposed to water. The chances back there are much lower as I find it enters most at the very front top seam (right above the speaker), but you never know.
Perhaps just covering the contacts with some heat shrink if you care enough.

THe problem with the speakers is the fragile little wires that lead to the inner coil and move with every vibration got wet, oxidized, and broke. Here's a picture.
ya, the tinsel leads, they do look rather fragile.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GBMINI
Thanks Josh ... but since that pic is GBMINI#3, no longer mine, I don't care so much
The location pimpedout has chosen, behind the inner door panel, is definitely more water proof.


I did replace one set of Boston Pros that went a bit distorted - but I was swapping components / crossovers, and couldn't really pin down where the fault was; maybe it was just my ears!

The speaker mounting ring is not the H/K one - it's the part available from MikeyTheMINI.



Since I didn't do the install, and don't now have the car, the only pics are what is in the Gallery (taken by the installer)
You can see a shiny piece in this pic - I'd guess it's the bracket that mounts to the back of the tweeter:

thanks for the info

only problem i see with how i mounted my crossovers is if i ever have to remove the door panels for whatever reason, the wire coming from the mid, tweet, and amp will be inside the door, and the crossover is on the door panel itself. but i left about a foot of play in the wire today when i ran it (about to upload pics) so that shouldnt be problem. i should be the only one taking the panels off anyways.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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well today i ran speaker wire from the rear (where the amps will be) to the front doors for the crossovers. what a PITA. but its clean, got both doors done, and im happy with how it came out.

removed passenger back panel to run speaker wire/RCA's



beefy little 6x9 "sub" (harmon kardon)



rca's



you can sorta see the speaker wire i ran through here (for the drivers door)



so much easier working with the seats out.



heres how i ran the wire through the little rubber tube things in the door jam. it was pretty complicated in this car, it wasnt just get the wire through the tube, and your done.....MINI decided to make it complicated. (for those of you that have never done this on your MINI lol)

this plugs into the door, and there was no where to get wire through. so what i did was drill a hole in this harness (where i drilled, it looks like something plugged in there, but theres no wires running to that side of the harness)



ran the wire through it



then this is the piece that is in the side of the dash (other end of the rubber tube thing)



put the wire thru that, fished it thru under the dash, under carpet, and to the back of the car.

then i got the things put back in the door



wire inside door and you cant see a thing in the door jam



 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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got the nakamichi cd400 in. it looks badass!

compared to the panasonic i bought, and didnt like.



no flash:



flash:



stock vs nak

 

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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I like that HU
Some great "how to" pics you did too - I'll have to link to them from GBMINI.net ...
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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ill put together a little write up once im done if you want.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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today was a slow day...i was tired and i slept half the day, and didnt start working on this til like 630 lol...then it got dark...but i got some non hardening modeling clay, put it around the mdf ring to seal the gap, screwed it in.





i also got my 6.5" XTC waterproof foam baffle things from parts express today. i tried a mid in my room with the baffle, and w/o, and i didnt really notice a difference, but it was also off like 50w lol. but either way, i decided to cut them up, leaving just the top half, so any water that leaks through my window seal, will hit this baffle, and drip to the bottom of the door, not my speaker.





i cut the bottom outer half for the bottom, just so when i screw the mid in, it sits level with the top. thats all i got done today cuase i only worked on it for like an 2 hours, that included eating and going to walmart for the clay lol
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GBMINI
I like that HU
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Me too !!!

Hands down the closest aftmkt look-alike to the oem head unit

Does it support the mfsw? MP 3s? iPod?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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the cd-300 and 500 play mp3's. the cd-400 (the middle model, what i got) doesnt. why? i have no clue lol

it does have an aux input, and a front, rear, and sub out

either way its bad ***!
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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that looks like a crapload of work. The nak looks good but I had some really bad experiences with them in my dads boat... 5th one rma'd from nak right now

Nice worksmanship, I hope it sounds good because you've got that car pretty torn apart.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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haha ya, it is alot of work, and its going slow becuase its hard workin on my truck, and this lol.

what happen with all 5 of your nak's???? lol
 
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