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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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OK, I just picked up the car. The system sounded fine. Then it seemed to make the bass way to pronounced after a while of listening to it. Then it sounded like the passenger side speaker had a piece of paper over it on the bass hits. Kinda of like a separated/damaged cone. I narrowed it down to the passenger side lower speaker by playing around with l/r balance and fr/rr fader settings. I scheduled an appt for next week at the dealership to have it looked at. The next day when I started it up, the extreme bassiness was gone. But I was still worried about the vbbtbbtbbtbbt effect on the bass hits.

So I got home that night and asked my neighbor about it since he's quite the audiofile himself. I then couldn't hear it. He couldn't hear it. It seems the speaker has miraculously cured itself.

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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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Are you using the exact same song for your testing? Is it the radio that you are getting the music from? I'm sure this is pretty obvious but it would be important. Another variable would be the temp and humidity. Given all the same variables and it still changes then I would guess it is a warenty issue.

One last thing. I wonder if there is something behind the speaker, like a loose wire or factory schmack, that is touching the back of the cone.

Hope this helps!

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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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>>One last thing. I wonder if there is something behind the speaker, like a loose wire or factory schmack, that is touching the back of the cone.

Something touching the back of the cone would make sense.

I though I might be just hearing things after it was clear that the vrbtvrbtvrbt went away. :smile:
 
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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>>>>One last thing. I wonder if there is something behind the speaker, like a loose wire or factory schmack, that is touching the back of the cone.
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>>Something touching the back of the cone would make sense.
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>>I though I might be just hearing things after it was clear that the vrbtvrbtvrbt went away. :smile:

I think we're on to something. At some point, it changed from a "vbbtbbtbbtbbt" to a "vrbtvrbtvrbt". `.-/
Actually, I have the HK and have had no such problems - let us know if you take it in for a check.

 
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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You may have a defectve driver from the factory, this stuff does happen, although I would've hoped the supplier would check each unit before sending 'em to the factory. Of course, it could've been damaged somehow during installation, which is likely. Your dealership doesn't have the equipment, and especially not the knowledge base to effectively diagnose this situation. They can replace the driver, and if it's better, then off ya go!

Good luck, keep us posted!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:23 AM
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>>I think we're on to something. At some point, it changed from a "vbbtbbtbbtbbt" to a "vrbtvrbtvrbt". `.-/

That changed when the song in my head changed
 
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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my passenger side speaker was making a terrible sound on only a few songs (non HK) and I brought it in. apparantly the foam stuffing used to dampen the vibrations in the door had moved and the door panel was vibrating. they fixed it in 2 minutes. maybe you have the same issue? hope this helps.


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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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>>You may have a defectve DRIVER from the factory, this stuff does happen, although I would've hoped the supplier would check each unit before sending 'em to the factory.



LOL, for a second I thought you were insulting him!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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>>>>You may have a defectve DRIVER from the factory, this stuff does happen, although I would've hoped the supplier would check each unit before sending 'em to the factory.
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>>LOL, for a second I thought you were insulting him!

Aliens can't be insulted. For I am a stranger in a strange land. Grog?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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This happened to me also, might be a defective speaker. just get it replaced if it continues.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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my HK does this on the driver side speaker - and I agree sometimes the bass is way to overpowering. I'm going to see if there is a way to tone down the amp as I have tried lowering the setting on the stereo itself - the sound is just "off"
 
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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>>This happened to me also, might be a defective speaker. just get it replaced if it continues.

I had it at the dealer yesterday and they said they fixed it. They said the door was rattling.

But it still does it. A slight ruffle in the treble when a bass note hits. Only does this on the right side. I'm in the process of getting another appointment to have it looked at again.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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dominic! Let me know what happens. I have the exact same problem. Some songs sound great but then i could be listening to the radio and the DJ will just be talking and there is all of this bass distortion on the passenger side lower speaker. Its my only dissapointment with the car
 
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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OK, I took my car back down there to have the tech ride with me on last Friday. The tech hear it. So I scheduled an appt for Tues. Sure enough by Saturday AM the rattle was gone. Not sure what fixed/cured it. So I listened and listenede all the way until Tues AM. I drove the car down there and had to tell them that they didn't need to work on it 'cause it wasn't there anymore.

I now have the bass set well into the negative range for both radio and CD. I had to adjust the treble into the positive for the radio. For the CD setting, the middle seemed to work the best. There's definately more bass being pumped into the system when at speed versus a standstill. I'm still playing around with the 1-6 adjuster to figure out what'll work the best.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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I'm having similar problems with the HK unit's bass. I have the bass turned all the way down for both radio and CD, but I still can't get the sound I want. still too bassy. On most CDs, the vocals sound relatively lost. I wish i could get more mid-range levels. If I can't figure something out, I may just have to replace the whole system. Can I do that and still have the steering wheel controls?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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dominicminicoopers,

I just picked up my MCS last week and I noticed this problem on my drive home. I went to the dealer the next day and my "Motoring Advisor" or the sales guy, noticed it as well. I scheduled a service appointment for next week.

Meanwhile, I've been monitoring the "buzzing" or "noise" problem on the passenger side speakers. I could definitely replicate it with speed and/or engine RPM. It seems that the problem only shows up when I go above 50 or when the RMP is above 3K or so. I'm thinking it may be interference with the speed or engine speed sensor that the HK systems have. It automatically adjusts the volume as you increase and decrease speed. Anyway, its just a theory right now.
I wonder if you have made the same observation.

Keep us updated on your problem.


 
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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I'll have my MINI S in a little over a week from now and I'm somewhat of an audio freak myself. I'm gonna have to pay clos attention to the speaker problems you guys are describing.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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yeh i have. But i really think this can be a corrected problem since it's only on one side. The problem is we just forked over 550 bucks for HK so it would be retarted to replace the entire system. I think if they cant fix the problem (which they really should be able to) I am going to get a sub so that can handle most of the base. I am going to do that regardless. GoodLuck
 
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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>>Have any of you folks considered replacing the speakers or the complete system with a decent new set up (Alpine, Elite, or Kenwood system)???

Pooky, actually I don't plan to add a thing. $$ problems right now. If I did add something to the system, it would be bass blockers for the front lower two speakers and/or swapping the amplification of the front two speakers to the read speakers. That way the rears are driven harder...
 
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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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>> Can I do that and still have the steering wheel controls?

Dunno, you should start a new thread so your question doesn't get lost in here.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Ok, here's another update on HK speaker problems, and one possible solution:

a few days ago I noticed the same (maybe?) problem others have reported on HK speakers:
a "buzzing" sound on certain bass notes, like a damaged or separated cone, or maybe a wire in teh door panel touching the cone.

I played around with it for a while, and noticed that this occurred repeatedly and consistently always at the same spot on CD, or the same song. This with different CDs. It only occurred on the right (passenger) front speaker.

In my car, it turned out the be the speaker grill. If you look closely, the HK speakers have the silver grille overlayed over a thicker frame / grid behind the grille. I think the grille vibrates against the grid/frame behind the grille at certain frequencies. I was worreid I would have to take the whole door apart, but instead I was able to just twist the grille by a tiny amount by pressing the hand on it and twisting, and the problem is gone!!!!

Maybe this will help a few others get rid of the buzz.

Cheers,
Markus

 
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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>>I was worreid I would have to take the whole door apart, but instead I was able to just twist the grille by a tiny amount by pressing the hand on it and twisting, and the problem is gone!!!!


I'll have to try this! Sounds cool!
 
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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I got my MCS back from the dealer yesterday. They replace the amp which they said would resolve the problem. No luck though, the problem is still there and they don't have a fix.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Has anyone tried using the electronic setting with the bass down... It seems to send most of the bass to the rear speakers, leaving the front tweeters relatively clean

 
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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>>Has anyone tried using the electronic setting with the bass down... It seems to send most of the bass to the rear speakers, leaving the front tweeters relatively clean
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How far down?
 
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