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The instructions took a little while to be completed by Kevin because there were so many versions. I was impatient and started the install without them. They are now part of the kit.
Stuart is taking his time and going crazy but absolutely first class work. I have completed my install and the car is buttoned up. If it were not for the sub level control, you would never know I had touched it.
Mark
Stuart is taking his time and going crazy but absolutely first class work. I have completed my install and the car is buttoned up. If it were not for the sub level control, you would never know I had touched it.
Mark
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First Impressions of new system
Well Gang! I have finally completed my Soundstage plus Subwoofer install after the new connector arrived today. I had already tested the amp and set levels and made everything nice and neat. Overall, I am very pleased with the system. The subwoofer sounds very good and the front speakers permit me to hear things I clearly could not before. The system plays plenty loud and for the first time, I am enjoying listening to music in my car.
For those who may not know, I have a 2009 MCS Convertible. I hated the basic 6 speaker system and no amount of adjusting could make it sound good. I would drive around and listen to the exhaust rather than that crappy system. I purchased my car used so it wasn't like I had a choice but now I do!
1. The system really isn't that difficult to install once you have all the tools and parts. I would recommend removing all seats to have enough room to get around. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the hardest, I would give it an 8 on the DIY scale. Mostly because things are tight and there is a lot to do.
2. Quality of components is very good. The stock drivers are clearly crap and the once supplied in the kit are much nicer. Having been in audio a long time, I can tell you they are pretty darn good. I also like that it is a soft dome tweeter since I find that I prefer the sound of those over most metal dome tweeters. It is also nice that the door system has a midrange and then a midwoofer to allow a lower crossover point before the sub has to kick in. I set my high pass crossover pretty low so no really low bass hits the door speakers. This is something that can be adjusted on the amp.
The subwoofer box is nice and the woofer seems pretty good also. It does make a surprising amount of bass and I do not feel the need to turn it all the way up to max. My daughter and I listened to a number of very bass heavy tracks on her iPod and she was pleased. That says a lot!
3. Overall sound quality is very high for a car system. I will not be entering any SPL competitions with this system but I couldn't care less. For the first time in my car I can tell the difference between the instruments and hear multiple background singers in a song. I can tell that a drum kit has more than one freakin drum! My daughter was quite surprised when I began pointing out what was actually in the music she was listening to.
Volume level seems pretty good and I was able to drive with the top down and hear things just fine. It was particularly nice to be stopped at a light and have detail and bass without the volume having to be too high. I am still playing with the sub level control but I think that is just because I can. It is a nice feature to have and there are times I turn it up just because I like bass. It is clean and I have not pushed it to the point of becoming muddy. One thing to remember is that the difference between loud and louder can often be many more watts of power. It is not a linear scale and the system seems to be nicely balanced between providing enough volume but still keeping the sound quality high.
4. A few caveats! It has come to my attention from a BMW mechanic that our cars are very sensitive and do not like to have the battery disconnected. Apparently this can cause all sorts of things to go haywire and throw codes. I made sure I did not start the car with the seats disconnected and was very careful the entire time. I did not drive the car for almost 4 days! I ran into a problem where my top would not go down and my windows were acting funny and would go down when the door handle was grabbed but would not go back up. It continued to act funny and then I sent them all up and all down again. The top finally went down and has been acting OK since. I am planning on taking it into the dealer for something else and will also have them check out the system in case there are any codes. I am not saying this will happen to everyone and certainly hope not. I am just saying to be careful.
Now I had some challenges getting everything together and it did not go smoothly but it is all worth it and I would do it again!
If anyone is in the Bucks County PA area or Mercer County NJ area and would like to hear the system, just let me know. If you are in the Bucks County PA area and want some help installing the system, just let me know and I would be happy to. Any questions I am here.
Mark
For those who may not know, I have a 2009 MCS Convertible. I hated the basic 6 speaker system and no amount of adjusting could make it sound good. I would drive around and listen to the exhaust rather than that crappy system. I purchased my car used so it wasn't like I had a choice but now I do!
1. The system really isn't that difficult to install once you have all the tools and parts. I would recommend removing all seats to have enough room to get around. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the hardest, I would give it an 8 on the DIY scale. Mostly because things are tight and there is a lot to do.
2. Quality of components is very good. The stock drivers are clearly crap and the once supplied in the kit are much nicer. Having been in audio a long time, I can tell you they are pretty darn good. I also like that it is a soft dome tweeter since I find that I prefer the sound of those over most metal dome tweeters. It is also nice that the door system has a midrange and then a midwoofer to allow a lower crossover point before the sub has to kick in. I set my high pass crossover pretty low so no really low bass hits the door speakers. This is something that can be adjusted on the amp.
The subwoofer box is nice and the woofer seems pretty good also. It does make a surprising amount of bass and I do not feel the need to turn it all the way up to max. My daughter and I listened to a number of very bass heavy tracks on her iPod and she was pleased. That says a lot!
3. Overall sound quality is very high for a car system. I will not be entering any SPL competitions with this system but I couldn't care less. For the first time in my car I can tell the difference between the instruments and hear multiple background singers in a song. I can tell that a drum kit has more than one freakin drum! My daughter was quite surprised when I began pointing out what was actually in the music she was listening to.
Volume level seems pretty good and I was able to drive with the top down and hear things just fine. It was particularly nice to be stopped at a light and have detail and bass without the volume having to be too high. I am still playing with the sub level control but I think that is just because I can. It is a nice feature to have and there are times I turn it up just because I like bass. It is clean and I have not pushed it to the point of becoming muddy. One thing to remember is that the difference between loud and louder can often be many more watts of power. It is not a linear scale and the system seems to be nicely balanced between providing enough volume but still keeping the sound quality high.
4. A few caveats! It has come to my attention from a BMW mechanic that our cars are very sensitive and do not like to have the battery disconnected. Apparently this can cause all sorts of things to go haywire and throw codes. I made sure I did not start the car with the seats disconnected and was very careful the entire time. I did not drive the car for almost 4 days! I ran into a problem where my top would not go down and my windows were acting funny and would go down when the door handle was grabbed but would not go back up. It continued to act funny and then I sent them all up and all down again. The top finally went down and has been acting OK since. I am planning on taking it into the dealer for something else and will also have them check out the system in case there are any codes. I am not saying this will happen to everyone and certainly hope not. I am just saying to be careful.
Now I had some challenges getting everything together and it did not go smoothly but it is all worth it and I would do it again!
If anyone is in the Bucks County PA area or Mercer County NJ area and would like to hear the system, just let me know. If you are in the Bucks County PA area and want some help installing the system, just let me know and I would be happy to. Any questions I am here.
Mark
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that sounds great... although my issue is not having the flexibility (ie x-over points/ im a guy that has ran active systems since 2004 so im am very picky when it comes to X-overs) that i am used to and since you have been into car audio do you hear any coloration from the passive x-overs that are in the system? my other issue is the stock head unit. the end result is only as good as the source unit at the start of the chain (im kinda OCD about my HU and the control of it) how do you rate it in terms of cleanliness of signal and the whole 9?
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Sbeezy,
I am not into car audio, although I have had many systems, I am into music. I have always been into music and one of the few people that listen to live music. That is something that does not come out of an amplifier and speaker. I have been an audiophile, worked in a very high end shop and owned a very high end shop, since sold! This is a car so of course it is colored in some way. It uses a car stereo with adapters to step the voltage down so of course it is colored in some way. It has tons of noise from the engine, exhaust and the wind so dynamic range is hugely compressed. I am not looking for perfection any longer! I just want something that sounds pretty good and speaks to me.
All systems, either stock or aftermarket are full of compromises by their designer and installer. Locations for speakers are rarely every perfect in a car and usually, as Kevin pointed out, they bump the midbass region to make it sound like the system has bass. The stock 6 speaker has no bass, no highs and no dynamics. It was so bad I would shut it off! The tuner is these cars sounds pretty crummy but CDs are OK. I have been streaming high bitrate CD rips from my iPod or Pandora from my iPhone. With those as sources I can finally hear some dynamics, tell the difference between each instrument, hear the background vocalists and actually tell if they are using a brush on the cymbal. It is like night and day. I finally want to go out to my car with some good tunes and take a drive. For the money paid is this perfect. I learned a long time ago there is no such thing when it comes to sound. We all hear differently and have different biases.
Changing the stock head unit and tearing the car apart are not options for most of us. We finally have a very good option with the Integral Audio Soundstage and Sub kit. It is not perfect and my experience has been far from it but the end result is a product that offers the best balance between cost and sound.
If you really want to have the best in your car you wouldn't even use a head unit. There are other options. If you also think active crossovers are the only way to go, they have their advantages and disadvantages, then this is most certainly not the system for you. Any way you slice it, car audio presents many challenges and juggling them is both art and science. Good luck in your search and hopefully you have some fun putting your system together.
Mark
P.S. Remember, this is all supposed to be fun!
I am not into car audio, although I have had many systems, I am into music. I have always been into music and one of the few people that listen to live music. That is something that does not come out of an amplifier and speaker. I have been an audiophile, worked in a very high end shop and owned a very high end shop, since sold! This is a car so of course it is colored in some way. It uses a car stereo with adapters to step the voltage down so of course it is colored in some way. It has tons of noise from the engine, exhaust and the wind so dynamic range is hugely compressed. I am not looking for perfection any longer! I just want something that sounds pretty good and speaks to me.
All systems, either stock or aftermarket are full of compromises by their designer and installer. Locations for speakers are rarely every perfect in a car and usually, as Kevin pointed out, they bump the midbass region to make it sound like the system has bass. The stock 6 speaker has no bass, no highs and no dynamics. It was so bad I would shut it off! The tuner is these cars sounds pretty crummy but CDs are OK. I have been streaming high bitrate CD rips from my iPod or Pandora from my iPhone. With those as sources I can finally hear some dynamics, tell the difference between each instrument, hear the background vocalists and actually tell if they are using a brush on the cymbal. It is like night and day. I finally want to go out to my car with some good tunes and take a drive. For the money paid is this perfect. I learned a long time ago there is no such thing when it comes to sound. We all hear differently and have different biases.
Changing the stock head unit and tearing the car apart are not options for most of us. We finally have a very good option with the Integral Audio Soundstage and Sub kit. It is not perfect and my experience has been far from it but the end result is a product that offers the best balance between cost and sound.
If you really want to have the best in your car you wouldn't even use a head unit. There are other options. If you also think active crossovers are the only way to go, they have their advantages and disadvantages, then this is most certainly not the system for you. Any way you slice it, car audio presents many challenges and juggling them is both art and science. Good luck in your search and hopefully you have some fun putting your system together.
Mark
P.S. Remember, this is all supposed to be fun!
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My system is mostly finished but I was wondering if any of you have any tips on putting the A pillars back in. For the life of me I am having the hardest time getting the tabs seated on the bottom of the pillar? Any ways to make this easier?
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I had a hell of a time also but here is what I did.
1. Make sure the terminals for the tweeters are not in the way. Depending on how they are mounted they hit the metal. Bend them back carefully and cover in electrical tape.
2. Place the a-pillar in at the bottom and make sure the tabs are seated. It will be at an angel. Push down.
3. You should notice that at the base in the door jam is a section of plastic from the a-pillar that is not seated correctly. Make sure the rubber sealmfromnthe door jam is not in the way then take Antrim removal tool and gently pry it forward. Be careful but it will move.
4. While prying push the a-pillar down to seat it. If done correctly it will kind of pop into place and the bottom at the dash will look correct.
5. Push the top in and you should be all done.
I spend a long time on these and didn't want to break them. Hope this works as well as it did for me!
Mark
1. Make sure the terminals for the tweeters are not in the way. Depending on how they are mounted they hit the metal. Bend them back carefully and cover in electrical tape.
2. Place the a-pillar in at the bottom and make sure the tabs are seated. It will be at an angel. Push down.
3. You should notice that at the base in the door jam is a section of plastic from the a-pillar that is not seated correctly. Make sure the rubber sealmfromnthe door jam is not in the way then take Antrim removal tool and gently pry it forward. Be careful but it will move.
4. While prying push the a-pillar down to seat it. If done correctly it will kind of pop into place and the bottom at the dash will look correct.
5. Push the top in and you should be all done.
I spend a long time on these and didn't want to break them. Hope this works as well as it did for me!
Mark
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From: Cannon AFB, Clovis, New Mexico
I had a ***** of a time with mine after buying the OEM a-pillars with the tweeter opening to install my QTD-25s. The hardest part is getting the part at the bottom rear to seat properly. Once that seated it wasn't too bad.
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Sbeezy,
I am not into car audio, although I have had many systems, I am into music. I have always been into music and one of the few people that listen to live music. That is something that does not come out of an amplifier and speaker. I have been an audiophile, worked in a very high end shop and owned a very high end shop, since sold! This is a car so of course it is colored in some way. It uses a car stereo with adapters to step the voltage down so of course it is colored in some way. It has tons of noise from the engine, exhaust and the wind so dynamic range is hugely compressed. I am not looking for perfection any longer! I just want something that sounds pretty good and speaks to me.
All systems, either stock or aftermarket are full of compromises by their designer and installer. Locations for speakers are rarely every perfect in a car and usually, as Kevin pointed out, they bump the midbass region to make it sound like the system has bass. The stock 6 speaker has no bass, no highs and no dynamics. It was so bad I would shut it off! The tuner is these cars sounds pretty crummy but CDs are OK. I have been streaming high bitrate CD rips from my iPod or Pandora from my iPhone. With those as sources I can finally hear some dynamics, tell the difference between each instrument, hear the background vocalists and actually tell if they are using a brush on the cymbal. It is like night and day. I finally want to go out to my car with some good tunes and take a drive. For the money paid is this perfect. I learned a long time ago there is no such thing when it comes to sound. We all hear differently and have different biases.
Changing the stock head unit and tearing the car apart are not options for most of us. We finally have a very good option with the Integral Audio Soundstage and Sub kit. It is not perfect and my experience has been far from it but the end result is a product that offers the best balance between cost and sound.
If you really want to have the best in your car you wouldn't even use a head unit. There are other options. If you also think active crossovers are the only way to go, they have their advantages and disadvantages, then this is most certainly not the system for you. Any way you slice it, car audio presents many challenges and juggling them is both art and science. Good luck in your search and hopefully you have some fun putting your system together.
Mark
P.S. Remember, this is all supposed to be fun!
I am not into car audio, although I have had many systems, I am into music. I have always been into music and one of the few people that listen to live music. That is something that does not come out of an amplifier and speaker. I have been an audiophile, worked in a very high end shop and owned a very high end shop, since sold! This is a car so of course it is colored in some way. It uses a car stereo with adapters to step the voltage down so of course it is colored in some way. It has tons of noise from the engine, exhaust and the wind so dynamic range is hugely compressed. I am not looking for perfection any longer! I just want something that sounds pretty good and speaks to me.
All systems, either stock or aftermarket are full of compromises by their designer and installer. Locations for speakers are rarely every perfect in a car and usually, as Kevin pointed out, they bump the midbass region to make it sound like the system has bass. The stock 6 speaker has no bass, no highs and no dynamics. It was so bad I would shut it off! The tuner is these cars sounds pretty crummy but CDs are OK. I have been streaming high bitrate CD rips from my iPod or Pandora from my iPhone. With those as sources I can finally hear some dynamics, tell the difference between each instrument, hear the background vocalists and actually tell if they are using a brush on the cymbal. It is like night and day. I finally want to go out to my car with some good tunes and take a drive. For the money paid is this perfect. I learned a long time ago there is no such thing when it comes to sound. We all hear differently and have different biases.
Changing the stock head unit and tearing the car apart are not options for most of us. We finally have a very good option with the Integral Audio Soundstage and Sub kit. It is not perfect and my experience has been far from it but the end result is a product that offers the best balance between cost and sound.
If you really want to have the best in your car you wouldn't even use a head unit. There are other options. If you also think active crossovers are the only way to go, they have their advantages and disadvantages, then this is most certainly not the system for you. Any way you slice it, car audio presents many challenges and juggling them is both art and science. Good luck in your search and hopefully you have some fun putting your system together.
Mark
P.S. Remember, this is all supposed to be fun!
gotcha.
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Well I got the system finally finished/installed on Saturday (I still have not heard it as I’m waiting on the new harness which was wired incorrect, should be here today) I took the car to BMW Saturday afternoon and had the computer cleared by my buddy, and as Mark said; the computer goes a bit nuts when the battery is disconnected and I had a list of codes 2 pages long showing everything that happened since the barratry was disconnected. Plus I hit the start button with the seat out so that was a big time fault…I will have it re-flashed once again next week just to make sure its all ok.
Here are the final pictures with a few of the car at the end. I made the speaker grill for a cleaner look and also I can now mount another shelf on it which I’ve still to make. I want to be able to have one with the woofer exposed and still be able to put on the supplied one that came with the system.
I will post pix later once I make the new shelf se-up….
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
Here are the final pictures with a few of the car at the end. I made the speaker grill for a cleaner look and also I can now mount another shelf on it which I’ve still to make. I want to be able to have one with the woofer exposed and still be able to put on the supplied one that came with the system.
I will post pix later once I make the new shelf se-up….
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
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Stuart,
You did a great job I know your harness will be here soon and then you will finally get to enjoy the sound. I hope you like it as much as I do! Really enjoyed the last few pics. You have a great looking JCW and I love the color combination. When you get sick of it, send it over here to PA and I will take good care of it. LOL!
Mark
You did a great job
I know your harness will be here soon and then you will finally get to enjoy the sound. I hope you like it as much as I do! Really enjoyed the last few pics. You have a great looking JCW and I love the color combination. When you get sick of it, send it over here to PA and I will take good care of it. LOL!Mark
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Thanks for sharing and all your tips. I'll be starting my install tomorrow and I can't wait, having the base system for this long drove me nuts and I to would just turn the system off.
I'll also be adding some CLD tiles along with some butyl rope, any suggestions on where to add this stuff? I also have some closed cell foam and was thinking about adding mass load vinyl but I think our cars might not need it and I'm not that thrilled about adding all that extra weight.
BTW are their any burn in procedures or anything of the sort? I don't know that much about electronics but heard people mention burn in and I think your not suppose to blast the audio right away or something but I have no clue, lol.
Cheers
I'll also be adding some CLD tiles along with some butyl rope, any suggestions on where to add this stuff? I also have some closed cell foam and was thinking about adding mass load vinyl but I think our cars might not need it and I'm not that thrilled about adding all that extra weight.
BTW are their any burn in procedures or anything of the sort? I don't know that much about electronics but heard people mention burn in and I think your not suppose to blast the audio right away or something but I have no clue, lol.
Cheers
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Hopefully Stuart will chime in here. I did not add any since mine is a convertible and I think it is a waste for me. Stuart did add some under the rear seats. I am not sure where else but he might know. Have fun and if you have any questions just ask.
Mark
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From: Cannon AFB, Clovis, New Mexico
Neil would be a good person to talk to about deadening a MINI. He uses a slew of product from SDS.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...n-sds-pwk.html
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...n-sds-pwk.html
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Neil would be a good person to talk to about deadening a MINI. He uses a slew of product from SDS.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...n-sds-pwk.html
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...n-sds-pwk.html
Cheers
OK just finished going through all 15 pages and WOW that stuff is way over my head, lol. But very interesting indeed.
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Fig32-Thanks for the tips on getting th A pillar in! Kevin's tip to pry the front part away from the windshield to get the front tab to seat, along with your tip about the back tab did the trick. I just received my new harness and will install it tonight if all goes well. Will post my thoughts on this upgrade from the HK system tomorrow .
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Got the harness last night and connected but it was late so haven’t really got it finalized yet. Sub pops when I hit the start button and the amp says on for about 2-5 minutes after the car is off and alarm is set; then the sub pops again during amp shut-off, i can hear it outside the car. Both me and Kevin aren’t sure why it’s doing this
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What is everyone using as far as a listening source, I-POD Interface, I-POD aux, USB or CD… I found the I-POD interface sounds pretty bad, must be the way it was ripped?? After checking it with the same CD I noticed a big difference in the sound quality and bass response. Guess I’ll be back to CD’s again…lol....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
???? What is everyone using as far as a listening source, I-POD Interface, I-POD aux, USB or CD… I found the I-POD interface sounds pretty bad
, must be the way it was ripped?? After checking it with the same CD I noticed a big difference in the sound quality and bass response. Guess I’ll be back to CD’s again…lol....http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digital...7629768965607/
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From: Cannon AFB, Clovis, New Mexico
Make sure all of the iPod's EQ and auto-volume leveling functions are turned off. I feed an iPod into my Alpine HU and it sounds fine. Even 256kbps files can sound amazing so I doubt it's the rips.
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Thanks QS... don't know what they were ripped at but I do know the CD that it was ripped from sounds so much better that the MINI/BMW interface hooked up to the pod. I thought that with the Interface hook-up method all the EQ and other settings were completely turned off automatically and you had no control over them???
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Neil did a LOT of work on his Mini. That's definitely taking it to the next level. I just finished reading that thread. I wish he would have posted up more pictures of the door sound deadening. Those tweeter pods are pretty trick. MS8 seems to be taking a kicking in the higher end installs though. Mine remains new in the box sitting on the shelf in the garage still. And not so great news about the stock Mini head unit being a disaster noise floor wise. 
I guess for daily driver use all this doesn't really matter much.
I guess for daily driver use all this doesn't really matter much.
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Stuart,
I do not have any popping sound. I am using the mini plug aux in and it sounds great. The car sends an amp on signal as soon as a door is opened and it stays hot for a while. Disconcerting but not a problem. How are you making out?
Mark
I do not have any popping sound. I am using the mini plug aux in and it sounds great. The car sends an amp on signal as soon as a door is opened and it stays hot for a while. Disconcerting but not a problem. How are you making out?
Mark
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From: Port Arthur,TX
@ STU how are your grounds? are they secure and on bare metal? And by "Ipod Interface" do you mean the interface that connects over MOST-BUS? or the one thats at the bottom of the center stack with aux/usb?
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@ purie if you would like to break in your speakers before hand just hook them up to a reciever and play music for around 30hrs that should be enough time to break them in before hand (but this comes from me breaking in a sub with super stiff spiders and such so for a component set it might be @ 10hrs for you)