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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by schatzy62
This worked on the 07 R56 i was playing with today and the menus seem to be the same as the menus for the non Nav cars. So look above for that info.
Where is the "start menu"? Is that the home button with the 4 sections?

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I have Nav and my PTY categories are correct from the factory.
Where do the categories display themselves? When I tune a station, it usually shows the station name or call letters. Some times it will show song titles. This is for regular FM and not HD FM. HD always shows song info, station etc but not a music category.

Where do you find the PTY categories?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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On some of my FM stations, they don't broadcast the song information or call letters, only the program type. On other stations, I get the same thing as you do...the call letters or some random song information. On these stations, the RDS info only updates in "real time" when I am tuned to that station. Otherwise it updates once every few minutes or so I guess.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
Where is the "start menu"? Is that the home button with the 4 sections?
Yes, but i was testing on and early 07 model and it may have changed. I could not get anymore info from the tech as all they had was this info and they found it to always work.


Originally Posted by Minidrivr
Where do the categories display themselves? When I tune a station, it usually shows the station name or call letters. Some times it will show song titles. This is for regular FM and not HD FM. HD always shows song info, station etc but not a music category.
The RDS and PTY show up in the screen. Unfortunately it is very random. Some stations broadcast this info some do not and other broadcast only portions of it. it all depends on what their transmiter can handle.
In my local area of Boston and Massachussetts only about 50% of the radio stations send any RDS/PTY data and of those that do only a protion actually send the song data, and it is always behind by about 30-45 seconds on most songs.

Originally Posted by Minidrivr
Where do you find the PTY categories?
This is not something you can change. they are all set up buy a consortium. If the radio station decidedes to send the info then your radio will pick it up the radio station does not broadcast it then there is nothing to see.

The actual listings can bee seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by schatzy62
This is not something you can change. they are all set up buy a consortium. If the radio station decidedes to send the info then your radio will pick it up the radio station does not broadcast it then there is nothing to see.

The actual listings can bee seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System
I've got a radio in another vehicle that lets you search for stations by their PTY. I guess the Mini one doesn't do that.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
I've got a radio in another vehicle that lets you search for stations by their PTY. I guess the Mini one doesn't do that.
No the Mini radio does not let you search by PTY. It only shows the PTY info if it is available.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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I tried the sequence again, this time from the setup section and it worked.

I didn't see any "area' section though. Actually everything in the screen it took me to didn't have anything that was user changeable. I'll have to check it out more...
 
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Thanks for the tip! l'll see if they fixed it next month when they bring my 09' home.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Thanks for this info Schatzy. It worked great on my non-hifi system.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
I tried the sequence again, this time from the setup section and it worked.

I didn't see any "area' section though. Actually everything in the screen it took me to didn't have anything that was user changeable. I'll have to check it out more...
I didn't have any luck. I was using the joystick and it just selected what ever function was selected.

The "controller" is it the joy stick? The volume ****? Car running or not?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OWG
I didn't have any luck. I was using the joystick and it just selected what ever function was selected.

The "controller" is it the joy stick? The volume ****? Car running or not?
Yes, the controller is the joystick.

I had the key fob in but hadn't pressed the start button. It works with the engine running as well.

I go to the home screen with the 4 options. Move the selection down to setup, but don't press the joystick once it's highlighted, then start the procedure. Yes, it does select things as you're holding the joystick down and turning it, but then it opens the diagnostic screen when you're done. Make sure you are going 15 seconds. + or - a couple and it doesn't work.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Minidrivr
Move the selection down to setup, but don't press the joystick once it's highlighted, then start the procedure.
Ahhh.... I'll give it a try tonight...
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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It would be interesting if there was a secret hidden option in the maintenance mode that allowed you to enable the ipod integration without paying the dealer. Granted I haven't worked much on auto comp systems, but it seems strange that BMW would want to maintain two separate builds of the firmware - one for the Ipod - one for no ipod... but again - there is a lot I don't understand.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 04:01 AM
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It would be interesting if there was a secret hidden option in the maintenance mode that allowed you to enable the ipod integration without paying the dealer. Granted I haven't worked much on auto comp systems, but it seems strange that BMW would want to maintain two separate builds of the firmware - one for the Ipod - one for no ipod... but again - there is a lot I don't understand.
It is not a separate firmware, but just a computer switch on of the software. Kind of like when you buy a new computer with Windows Office on it. If you do not go thru the set up routine then it will not work for you.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by schatzy62
It is not a separate firmware, but just a computer switch on of the software. Kind of like when you buy a new computer with Windows Office on it. If you do not go thru the set up routine then it will not work for you.
I understand - it just seems strange/annoying that BMW would lock it down so much considering you have to buy their hardware to make it work.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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Not so strange. Imagine the warranty cost if it operated like a PC.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by OWG
Not so strange. Imagine the warranty cost if it operated like a PC.
+1 on that. It would probably make the car cost more like $75,000 jsut so they could cover their warranty costs.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OWG
Ahhh.... I'll give it a try tonight...
And it works. Exactly what can be changed I don't know, but it works.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OWG
And it works. Exactly what can be changed I don't know, but it works.
I haven't found anything on those screens that is adjustable. The non-Nav folks mention changing the rds/pty country code but I don't see where that is adjustable on the Nav's diagnostic menu. The Nav lets you pick your country in one of it's normal settings. Many that affects the rds/pty code as well.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Thanks, Schatzy!!

Worked like a charm on my 08 Clubman (HiFi, No Nav).
This was one of the few things that bugged me.
Now the radio provides the correct info for each station.

My life is perfect once again!

Rich
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Thank you! This little radio glitch has been bugging me for a year now!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by schatzy62
Here is what worked on my 08 Clubman.

Please note you do this at your own risk I take no responsibility for any damage you may cause or other changes to the radio system that you may inadvertantly make.

You will be going into the service mode on your radio. This procedure may also clear all your preset stations. Please note that i have not had time to figure out what all the other seetings are at this point bu t hope to get downto working on that later this week.

Please read these instruction completely before attempting this. there are timing issues in some steps to make this work

1. Insert Key (fob) into Ignition
2. Turn Radio OFF by pressing the volume button.
3. Turn Radio ON by pressing the volume button.
4. With in 8 seconds press and hold the manual tuning button (the one with the m on it)
5. Press and release the button under the + sign in the screen a number of time until the "AREA" screen shows up.
6. Press the button under USA.
7. Press the volume button to turn off the radio.
8. Press the volume button to turn the radio on.
9. Check you stations.

I found that my radio was set to USA but they were still reading the incorrect info such as has been explained above. But after this procedure they all corrected them selves. So what caused them read wrong I am not sure but they are right now.
Just did this and it worked like a champ first try... thank you so much!!

Did you ever determine what the other 'change-able' items were in those menus??
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by torobud
Just did this and it worked like a champ first try... thank you so much!!

Did you ever determine what the other 'change-able' items were in those menus??
If my memory serves me correctly most of them are just data information and are really not adjustable. I think it is three or four that have some affect but that is it.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Thanks for the how to it is nice to see ROCK instead of EDUCATION. Although now I can't say that I am studying when I have my radio cranked .
 
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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schatzy62 genius

Originally Posted by schatzy62
Here is what worked on my 08 Clubman.

Please note you do this at your own risk I take no responsibility for any damage you may cause or other changes to the radio system that you may inadvertantly make.

You will be going into the service mode on your radio. This procedure may also clear all your preset stations. Please note that i have not had time to figure out what all the other seetings are at this point bu t hope to get downto working on that later this week.

Please read these instruction completely before attempting this. there are timing issues in some steps to make this work

1. Insert Key (fob) into Ignition
2. Turn Radio OFF by pressing the volume button.
3. Turn Radio ON by pressing the volume button.
4. With in 8 seconds press and hold the manual tuning button (the one with the m on it)
5. Press and release the button under the + sign in the screen a number of time until the "AREA" screen shows up.
6. Press the button under USA.
7. Press the volume button to turn off the radio.
8. Press the volume button to turn the radio on.
9. Check you stations.

I found that my radio was set to USA but they were still reading the incorrect info such as has been explained above. But after this procedure they all corrected them selves. So what caused them read wrong I am not sure but they are right now.
Thank you schatzy62. I stumbled onto this thread and learned about a problem I didn't even know I had! Reset the radio this morning and it worked perfectly. So great to see the proper radio station displays!
 
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