well i went to another VW dealer last night and they offered me 17k but i talked them up to 18k and took that and found the best car they had on the lot, which isnt exactly what i want but its close and i got a good deal. 04 Jetta 1.8T Reflex Silver with 17's and heated leather seats, it also has a sunroof but the only thing im not sold on is it has a steptronic Auto tranny.

 

VW automatic?

<-- runs screaming...

I'm not a fan of automatics in general, but from what I've read on the Vortex and TDIClub, VW's are particularly bad...

 

Yeah like i said thats the only part i dont like. But if anything else i can keep it for a year or 2 until i can get a new GTI or something.