You guys need to read this:

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new...mini-cooper-s/

0-60 in 5.7s!!!!

The dyno charts are pretty impressive too. Not too shabby for a car that gets such great gas mileage.

 

Pretty good for a stock car that wasn't broken in yet.

Put on some drag tires and light rims for more action.

 

nice!

 

Cool

 

This is going to be fun.

dean.

 

Makes sense to me. The MCS I demoed 2 weeks ago pulled harder than a 6.5 sec car should. Second gear pulls, stock suspension, LSD. Lots of wheel spin, but I attributed that to the runflats.

Mark

 

I believe the times, my stock R56 is definitely quicker than any variation of when my R53 was supercharged. If I'm quick with my shifts it'll get tire squeak in 3rd.

 

The numbers are very impressive. I'm glad BMW came thru on a performance factor for the R56.

 

I just realized that it said the average of 4 runs?

I wonder what thier quickest time was.

 

yess, when I get my dark silver R56 mini cooper s I can hang with my friends 06 GTO he'll be surprised, my R53 is behind his car about 5 car lengths right off the line.

 

the darn thing is def. fast!! I just wish it looked more like the r53... I'll be ok though,maybe my wife will want to get one.

 

The times were:

5.4
5.6
5.8
5.7

 

5.4s


I wonder what type of clutch/tire damage one needs to get that sort of time. Any pointers/launch techniques for getting the best runs? (of course only on a closed drag strip or autox course )


I'll also give some praise to Grassrootsmotorsports magazine. Great mag if you're into autox, track days, or full on racing. I look forward to every issue. They also really like the mini as you can see.

 

Hmmm...with 0-60 times in the mid-to-upper five second range, I'd expect to see 1/4 times in the low-to-mid 14s as well...but the fastest I've seen reported for a stock 6-speed Cooper S is 14.9.

I think Winding Road got a 6.6 sec 0-60 in their test of the R56, but of course I don't know how how aggressive they were...

 

My technique is to rev to about 3000 RPM, let out clutch as you step on gas to allow about 20% (guesstimate) wheel spin. That's enough wheelspin so that it feels like you're smoking the tires a little without feeling that drop in forward momentum.

So, yes, tires are used a little.

At least it's better than the WRX STi 0-60 technique. Rev to limiter. Drop clutch. Hope nothing breaks.

 

Per, did you use your autox tires or the stockers?

 

Stock.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't gearing account for a slower than expected quarter mile time?

 

Yep, you're right....there are lots of factors that could effect times (gearing, traction, reaction time, etc.).

But, in general, it seems to me that a car that can get to 60 mph in less than 6 seconds should be able to reliably crack the 15-second 1/4 mile barrier by a fairly significant margin.

What kind of results are the magazines getting?

 

My Cooper S feels fast, but I've a question for you all. With the all-season tires, ASC and limited slip differential, are you getting a little wiggle when you stomp the gas? Basically, my car seems to loss traction on one of the tires, the limited slip transfers power to the tire with traction, then the ASC kicks in, and I get the wiggle. I wonder if I had really good summer tires installed, would they do this?

Any ideas?
Mike

 

How do the quarter-mile trap speeds on the new cars compare to the older ones? Spinning the tires or bogging the launch can play hell with your 0-60ft and 0-60MPH times, but bogging/spinning won't affect the trap speeds very much, if at all.

 

I really want to believe the 0-60 time, and maybe it's accurate. What sobers me is the varous other tests that have resulted in 0-60 times in the mid-six second range. A one second difference is a major difference.

However, the R56 demo I drove seemed to me to be awfully strong for a car that would run mid-six second times. The Mini felt ever so much quicker than my current car is probably in the seven second range. I took it easy with the Mini because it had 86 milles on the ODO, and I find it hard to pound on other people's cars. Still, a bit of full throttle in second gear felt very impressive even though I shifted short. What I really liked was the immediate punch and strong mid range. There is nothing like pulling power, both around town, and on an autocross course. Hondas are excellent on the track, but not in traffic. Having to rev the engine to 7500 rpm to get a bit of power gets tiresome and it can attract the kind of attention that we sensible motorists do not want.

Having a car on order, I certainly want the 5.7 time to be accurate. If it is accurate, I'll have even more fun that I hoped for. I've never gone in much for high powered cars, but bring it on.

If the 07 is that quick, it's going to create a stir in G Stock in SCCA autocross events. I noticed that a couple of people from Florida did very well at a recent autox in their new Mini. I can't remember where I read about it, but it was good to see.


Happy motoring,

Joe S

PS: waiting is for the birds!

 

The 0-60 test was done with 93 octane fuel. Not sure if that would make a huge difference or not, but it is worth noting.

 

I have to say, "no chance"!!!

Have any respected sources published times? Autocar in the UK tested the S at 7.1s to 60 on a greasy track. They said the S "could maybe" do 6.5s. There is a BIG difference to get down to 5.7s. Is this not Porshe Boxster S territory?

 

Is this not Porshe Boxster S territory?

First, I agree with you. A one sec difference between what both MINI and the auto journalists say is HUGE ... I seriously doubt its true (but you all can hope).

No, a current 987S is, per Porsche, a 5.2 car. In reality, Porsche always underrates its engines and times. Easily a 5 second car. I haven't seen an auto mags test times for a 07 987S but published results of the 06 987S (old engine) from R&T and Motor Trend are 5.0 or 5.1.