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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Speed Shifting the 6 speed?

Today I attempted to speed shift my MCS from 1st to 2dn and it would not engage 2nd. I may have hit the gate but I don't think so. I describe speed shifting when the pedal remains mashed while banging the clutch and shifting. I can do it in my TDI NB. Has anyone else tried this with the 6 speed?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jibeho
Today I attempted to speed shift my MCS from 1st to 2dn and it would not engage 2nd. I may have hit the gate but I don't think so. I describe speed shifting when the pedal remains mashed while banging the clutch and shifting.
Your road speed and the gear will most likely not match and won't you just eat up your clutch (which goes easily on MINIs anyway?)?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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My question is why do you want to speed shift? It's not so great for either the clutch or engine; it really isn't worth the benefit unless you're in a short sprint--and even then it's only going to help you if you hit it right. But you're going to wear everything out sooner if you push it.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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My question is why do you want to speed shift? It's not so great for either the clutch or engine; it really isn't worth the benefit unless you're in a short sprint--and even then it's only going to help you if you hit it right. But you're going to wear everything out sooner if you push it.
I don't make it a habit just when I need to skedaddle. The TDI still chirps 2nd with 140k. I will make a point of not trying this agan in the MINI, I want to have it when it has 140k also.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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I didn't really understand the speed shifting part, but when I go into full throttle and shift from first to second, I have the same exact problem. I've tried it several times, and I think I only caught second once or twice, and it was a great feeling. But that's the thing that's bothering me the most about my MCS right now. If you figure it out let me know.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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hmm what year MCS.. i have an 03 which ive been drag racing and now Autox. currently car has just over 45k. with over 12k done with Speedshifting. I'm also using a Stage 3 clutch which changes where on the pedal it starts to engage. I found if using the stock clutch it would begin to engage at the first 1/4 inch from the floor which would make it easy to hit the gates and have the problem you described. With the Stage 3 its only 1" of movement from the top of the pedal to go from full engage to disegage which makes it much much easier for speedshifting.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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^^ yeh, i think the problem is the clutch not disengaging fast enough.

but again, just shift normally for street. no need to go so fast.
 
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