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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Infinitely adjustable anti-sway bars?

So MINI suspension gurus, in my search for a set of ASBs for my MINI, it seems from what I can tell most of the products out there are two or three position bars. Does anyone make a fairly high quality slider style bars? Something along the lines of these:

http://www.kokeln.com/products/produ...s/swaybars.jpg

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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Ireland Engineering makes one that people tend to like. It's variable adjustable, like what you are looking for. It's not infinitely adjustable, though, because that would be physically impossible.

https://secure9.nexternal.com/shared...products%2Easp

There's also the Ultrik, though I haven't heard anything about it.

http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NMS2002/InvDetail.cfm
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Webb Motorsport will have one like that shortly.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Samurai Will
It's not infinitely adjustable, though, because that would be physically impossible.
Thanks! Yeah, ITs Sunday, I hadn't had enough coffee in me when I posted to remember the more approriate term is 'fully' adjustable.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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i think those are overkill for street cars...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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I'm very happy with my 3-setting rear sway, the reasonable price tag and the fact that it is quiet as a mouse.

The variable ones are great if you really need it... but be prepared for some squeaks.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
i think those are overkill for street cars...
"Infinitely adjustable", or the huge hollow straight bars (like the one pictured).

I'd agree that the straight bars are definitely a race piece - which only means they started out there. Typically, FWD roadracers are the only people who need that much bar. Isn't the first time that the street people have wanted to emulate the racers though.

With the bar adjustment, I'm not a fan of sliders. It's just more hassle with little reward. On a 3-hole bar, the difference between holes is very small anyway - in the range of a couple percent. Only a well-sorted [RACE] car would see a difference in smaller fractions. Then, there's always the worry of slipping. Sure it's unlikely, but it's always in the back of your mind. Also, when changing the setting, you need to make sure the surface is clean, and so on...

If that's what you're looking for though, and you have the money to spend, Webb will have something for you shortly.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenn B
The variable ones are great if you really need it... but be prepared for some squeaks.
Just to clarify... changing from a 3-hole mount to a slot doesn't cause squeaks. Changing to a different style bar (with different style mounts) may.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Webb will have something for you shortly.
Oh yeah? Where are the numbers, and sound recordings!?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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I think the word you're looking for is...

Originally Posted by rjmann
Thanks! Yeah, ITs Sunday, I hadn't had enough coffee in me when I posted to remember the more approriate term is 'fully' adjustable.
continuously. All adjustable items are fully adjustable.

Matt
 
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Thanks all. I know what I'm getting into. The bars in the pic I referenced are the ones installed on my 911 RS. I'm going to AX the Mini for fun this year, maybe track it once or twice and as the engine and all the weight are at the wrong end of the car , I need to make it drive properly, which means a little fine tuning it to rotate more like what I'm used to, i.e tail out. The Webb bar looks like the ticket.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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The webb bar may be the ticket but is it done and available yet?
That is what I want to know. ANyone have pics from the pulley party that he was at?
Thanks
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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RJmann this is what you are looking for!

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=54249
 
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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At $189, the Ireland Engineering or Ultrik continuously adjust rear bars are just as cheap or cheaper than many of the traditional 2 or 3 setting bars, and they even come with adjustable drop links. It seems like a no-brainer to me. Am I missing something that's bad about the IE or Ultrik bars?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 02:21 AM
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I know someone who went with the Ultrik, install was fairly simple and they seemed happy with it, though it had some inital clearance issues, I'll let em know about this thread so you can get first hand experiance about its uses. I think that they are incredibally economical and if you get more serious as time goes on then you can dial the car in to exactly where you want it.
 
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