Hi folks !

This might be interesting for some of you guys !:

On friday, november 4th our team at http://www.newmini-technik.de has arranged a dynoevent in cologne (germany) with 14 participating minis with lots of different tuning-setup's !. Some of these cars have been permanently tuned for the last 1 1/2 years and we now want to illustrate the different power- and torque-outputs of these cars.

Here are the cars which will be tested on friday - starting at 8 o'clock in the morning:

MINI One Diesel:

Hardware:
Standard Turbocharger
Standard Airfilter
Standard Exhaustsystem

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )


MINI Cooper #1:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
Standard Camshaft
Standard Airfilter
Standard Exhaustsystem
Standard Header

Software:
MTH ( http://www.mth-powerchip.de )
"Tunerfile"

MINI Cooper #2:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
Standard Camshaft
K&N Airfilter (open)
Jama Exhaustsystem
Standard Header

Software:
MTH ( http://www.mth-powerchip.de )
"Tunerfile"

MINI Cooper S #1:

Harware:
ESR-Cylinderhead
JCW Airbox
58mm Pulley
Alta-Large-Intercooler
Standard header without prekat
BN-Pipes exhaust
Crank pulley
RMS-Oilcooler

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )

MINI Cooper S #2:

Hardware:
RMS-Cylinderhead
RMS-Supercharger
RMS-Watercooled Intercooler
RMS-Oilcooler
JCW-Airbox
JCW-Exhaustsytem
Supersprint Header
HJS 100 cell kat

Sofware:
RMS ( http://www.rms-tuning.com / http://www.mini-tuning.at )

MINI Cooper S #3:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
RMS-Watercooled Intercooler
ESR-Camshaft
54mm pulley
Standard header without prekat
Schmidt-Exhaussystem
Standard Airfilter

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )

MINI Cooper S #4:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
58mm Pulley
K&N Airfilter
Jama Exhaustsystem
Standard Header

Software:
Digitec ( http://www.digi-tec.de )

MINI Cooper S #5:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
Standard Airfilter
Standard Header (without prekat)
Standard Exhaustsystem
Schrick Camshaft

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )

MINI Cooper S #6:

Hardware:
K&N Typhoon Airfilter
56,5mm Pulley
Schrick Camshaft
OBX Header (without prekat)
Remus Exhaustsystem
Standard Cylinderhead
Crank Pulley

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )

MINI Cooper S #7

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
56,5mm Pulley
Standard Header (without prekat)
Remus Exhaussystem
Standard Airfilter

Software:
MTH ( http://www.mth-powerchip.de )
"Standard-File"

MINI Cooper S #8:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
GRS-Intercooler
JCW Airbox
BN-Pipes Exhaustsystem
Standard Header (without prekat)
Schrick Camshaft

Software:
ESR ( http://www.esr-tech.de )

MINI Cooper S #9:

Hardware:
JCW' 05 Cylinderhead
JCW' 05 Airfilter
JCW' 05 Exhaustsystem

Software:
JCW

MINI Cooper S #10:

Hardware:
Standard Cylinderhead
56,5mm Pulley
Selfmade Exhaustsystem
Standard Header (without prekat)

Software:
MTH ( http://www.mth-powerchip.de )
"Standard-File"


We will post the results of these dynoruns in an updated .pdf file which can be found in this thread:

http://www.newmini-technik.de/viewtopic.php?t=2661

If you have any questions about this event feel free to ask !


Cheers!


Macmini

 

It'll be good to see some datapoints from across the pond!

 

tradiuz: What the heck is the "MTH Opti-file"?

 

mth has 2 tuningfiles for sale.

further details can be found here. i am talking about the so called "standard file"

http://www.mth-powerchip.de/_neu1407/e_mini.htm

mac

 

"Standard" file.

 

I stand to be corrected, but as far as we know, none of these cars do have the tuner file. All files purchased through Hitec (German tuning company) have the standard file - regardless what they state.

 

Mac, its in German, translate please?

 

It says the data will be up friday or Saturday.

 

I didn't know the MINI One D had a turbo in it from the factory.

If we ever get one of those here, Hello BullyDog!

MINI meet your new friends Nitrous and Propane!

 

or even on friday night central european time depends on how long we'll be sticking together on friday :smile: !
all minis have setups as posted in the list above!
we're also trying to arrange an additional cooper s with a smaller pulley + the mth tunerfile !

will keep u posted

 

thanx for translation

 

hi folks!


sorry for delay !
anyways....every single dynosheet and the complete results can be found in this subforum:

http://www.newmini-technik.de/viewforum.php?f=339

all poweroutputs in german "PS"

we will have another 16 additional cars for a second dynoday which is currently being organized and which probably take place in the next couple of weeks!

have a nice one!

mac

 

awesome

 

Oke, i have a question.

I suppose P-rad = wheel hp and P-mot = crank hp.
If i devide the wheelhp through the crankhp, i get the drivetrain loss, right?

Most of the MCS´s had approx. 26% drivetrain loss witch i find a lot for a FWD car. Only Nick Mini S 225 had a 20% drivetrain loss. Does he have smaller/lighter wheels/clutch? How else would this be possible?

When my car was on the rollingroad, i had approx. 14% drivetrain loss witch is a lot less than you guys have!

Strange....

cheers,
Peter

 

If the "Hektor" car is for real, that's some ridiculous power. It seems to have RMS SC and goodies that never made its way here... But, there's some weirdness here... Look at "muffn," the Cooper. They're saying 120.6 PS and 146 (!!!) Nm torque, with just an MTH tuner tune. There's just no way, in my mind, that this could be possible!?!?! That's more torque than an MCS, I believe...

 

MiniS225 has 205/40-17 mounted all other S at least 205/45-17, we noticed a drivetrain loss of 10hp with 18".
Muffn Cooper with the MTH-Tunerfile 146 Nm are 105 lb ft, 1 lb ft is 1,36 Nm converted. Muffn was very disappointed with only 120 hp instead of the promised 136 hp.

 

Ahh, makes much more sense! Sorry about that!

 

The results for muffn is WHP? Seems pretty good for the Cooper that is stock except for ecu.

 

danbanger,
the power on muffn´s cooper was measured at the crank

 

I didn't know, that is why I asked if this was WHP............................................... ........

 

further dynosheets added today ("coops")

http://www.newmini-technik.de/viewto...?p=33769#33769
(if u need translation feel free to ask

next dynoday is on december 3rd with more minis with different setups

cheers

mac

 

ok, i could be greatly mistaken,(since i don't understand a stich of German) but on hte RMS webpage it says their 250 kit is 6199 German Duetche Marks (I think) thus when when a conversion to U.S $ mean about 4k....


why can't some one have that kind of a performance package for that much? and it seems to be the real deal according the RMS tuned car from this dyno day...

OR it could be in Euros and I am just F'in stupid... LOL

~ mark

 

Hey Piston,
since a couple of years we have the EURO in germany, in austria as well.
€ 1,- Euro is about $ 1,2 Dollar.

 

it seems that the OR option wins AGAIN!

 

Since my German in rusty and Babelfish is even rustier am I correct in the conclusion that the MTH Tuner file delivered 2.5 HP less than the standard file?