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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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BIGGER brake kit?

I just have to ask. Before I pour over the notes, specs and costs;

Is there any REAL interest in a 14" BBK for this car?

Yes, I said 14". Yes, I know the car doesn't 'need' 14" brakes. Yes, I can make it all work out quite well. No, I don't think it will cost the same as a 13" kit. No, it won't fit stock wheels.

I'm just reading of people who look at 18" plus wheels and can't help but wonder.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Not me. I went to 16 inch wheels due to the ride harshness of the 17 inch wheels & runflat tires that came from the factory.

I am interested in your brake kit for 16 inch wheels (SSRs @ 16x7). When my modification piggy bank gets replenished, I will be contacting you.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
Not me. I went to 16 inch wheels due to the ride harshness of the 17 inch wheels & runflat tires that came from the factory.

I am interested in your brake kit for 16 inch wheels (SSRs @ 16x7). When my modification piggy bank gets replenished, I will be contacting you.
with my SSR 16X7.5's i don't feel the need for a brake upgrade...car stops very well due to the lighter weight wheels/tires. well, i don't really track
the car so never really encounted brake fade...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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holy cow, what are you thinking todd.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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I am guessing this kit is mostly for BLING.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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Bling sells. And there's nothing wrong with it if that's your deal.

I figure someone has to do it. Might as well be me. I'll do some more thinking on it and see what shapes up.

I'm just looking for input and comments. No bickering please. Just state your opinion and move along.

Anyone who's interested in working with me on this (i.e. discount) please let me know via email or pm and we'll talk.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by toddtce
Bling sells. And there's nothing wrong with it if that's your deal.
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Yep, Bling sells well. Can you market it for what it would be?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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Can you market it for what it would be?
You lost me here.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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What calipers are you thinking about? To some, wilwoods are not as bling as brembo.. :smile:
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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I don't currently have plans for alternative calipers from other sources. Not that I am married to WW but they do offer the best value for what we are proposing here. Aside from the engineering issues to deal with on alternate brands the biggest is simply cost. I'd rather not turn this into a $3000 kit just to have a different name on it.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by toddtce
You lost me here.
I'm saying that if it really doesn't add any "performance" value, why not market it as bling for people with those 19 and 20" wheels?

Nothing wrong with bling!:smile:
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Oh it will certianly add performance value. But let's be honest; any die hard track guy is going to be less impressed with 17lb rotors and 22", 60lb wheels. He's just a different animal with different needs.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by toddtce
Oh it will certianly add performance value. But let's be honest; any die hard track guy is going to be less impressed with 17lb rotors and 22", 60lb wheels. He's just a different animal with different needs.
TRUE!
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Ahem...(cough) carbon-ceramic rotors (cough)...ahem

there's some track respected bling... :smile:

As far as a 14" kit goes..

Hey, why not

I am happy with what I have though.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Hey Todd,

I am pretty sure there is a market for your idea, perhaps overseas. Bling factor will play an important role, for die hard track guys, well, i do not think so, so hard to justify the necessity.

Would I buy it? If you help me with the wheels that will support 14"BBK, hell yeahhh....I am in. Otherwise, I am a simple street racer that jumps on everything with an unusual motion on the road, so probably will never need it.

Good Luck,

Berk
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Spent some time on it today in fact. No details for folks just yet. Still in the brainstorming stage.

Don't stick your neck out too far...I just might call you. Gotta have 18s however.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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isnt there a company in britian that used a porsche caliper on massive discs for their bbk? i believe it was gt tuning...

at least they did it, but would it be economically viable is one question, another is that the majority of mini owners who need bbks uses 16 or 17s on street, some uses 15s... 14' is great, but wouldn't it be too big to throw the balance you talked about all out of whack?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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I do recall some Porsche set up pic being posted. Not sure of the details. And I'm not really claiming to break new ground. If someone has a 14" kit out there now or in the future then so be it. As for the link to the other one, just reading it brings to light a lot of things that I'd call into question. I welcome new products to compete with.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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oooOOOOoooooo 14"!!!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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i acually make the 14 inch kit for the mini with a 12.8 inch rear two peice kit for the car


MASSIVE

here is the pics
here is the front 12.8 4 piston
6 piston also available
http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/15057/68335.jpg
here is the minis rear 12.8 kit with two piston calipers with ebrake built in
4 piston also available
http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/15057/68336.jpg

here is the 14 inch rotor i use next to the 13 inch
http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/15057/68338.jpg


just im me for info
also no modding needed
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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I'll have more details on this in the next week. I hope- need to do some on car investigating as well.

Currently we're looking at a well designed and planned 14" front kit with a number of things not found on the 13" kit. I think you'll be quite pleased with the final package.

Target price is about $2100.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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oh yes and all our calipers and rotors are wilwood products ! just had to point that out
 
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Uh-oh

Well DANG! Since 14" kits were not such a hit how about something larger??

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6636/...lled0037wo.jpg
 
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