Hello all, this past weekend I performed my annual oil change and wanted to give a small review about two products that were used.

Previous oil change services were performed by my local MINI dealership using their MINI branded oil.

: Liqui Moly Top Tec 6600 0W-20
: Liqui Moly Cera Tec

- Purchased from FCP Euro since they were on sale at a great price.

- This was my first time using their products and noticed the engine was a little quieter.

- After driving for a few days I noticed the engine is smoother while driving and at idle. I’ve been told this is mostly from Cera Tec.

: Schwaben 30” Ramps

- This was my first time using ramps ever.

- Purchased from @ECSTuning sister company Evannex. Same great customer service and fast shipping.

- Very light weight and could not believe how sturdy they are.

- They did not slide/shift, make any loud/odd sounds and did not flex when driving onto them.

Overall very pleased with the oil and ramps. I would highly look into both products if you’re going to perform your own oil changes.

I will update this thread if anything changes regarding my experience with the Liqui Moly products.

Below are a few pictures of my MINI on the ramps since I wasn’t able to find some online.





Have a great day and motor on -Rich

 

nice car, tell me about your number graphics, please.

 

I have been using Liqui Moly Top Tec 6600 0W-20 in my F56 S for a while now, and last year I incorporated CeraTec and Mos2 into the routine (the two products should not be put in together, but they are complementary -- short version is to use Mos2 on the oil changes where not using CeraTec, and CeraTec should go in every 25k-30k miles depending upon who/what you consult. Long version is more complicated).

I did some solid digging on CeraTec and folks who have taken time to test it seem to report that it offers some genuine improvement, even if incremental, and not just when used on the BMW/MINI. That made it worth a shot for me, and the complementary aspects of CeraTec and Mos2 led me to start using both. The method of action of CeraTec strikes me as a wise approach for engine longevity, so I intend to keep it up.

 

Hi @johnnys2quick sure thing! My MINI is a tribute edition to Paddy Hopkirk that MINI released in 2021.

Paddy Hopkirk’s classic MINI had 37 as its starting number and won the 1964 Monte Carlo Rally.

https:/www.mini.com/en_MS/home/automotive/heritage/paddy-hopkirk-edition.html

Motor on -Rich

 

@cjv2 thank you so much for sharing

I will most definitely be using their MoS2 additive in between Cera Tec uses.

Motor on and see you in the forums -Rich

 

i actually knew that. I was more interested in where you have the graphic cut.

 

Hi @johnnys2quick my misunderstanding, the graphics come pre-installed by MINI

 

Rich - ramps, is your car lowered ? I am. I have 18" rims with 40 series tires.& short C/Os how close do you sit to ground off-ramps & on-ramps ? Thanks, Stu

 

Hi Stu, I hope you’re doing well
My MINI has the standard 17” wheels and is not lowered. I don’t know MINIs standard height measurements.

@ECSTuning has measurement instructions and they are attached below.



In addition they have a Schwaben model with extensions for lowered cars.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-schwaben.../006160sch01a/

Hope this helps and see you on the forums
-Rich

 

If you have a lowered MINI (slammed to normal coilover height) or one with aggressive front lip you just get the longer ones that slowly bring the car up: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-schwaben...-parts/v-mini/
Most MINIs are ok with the one shown above. F60/R60 Countryman / Pacemen / F54 Clubman seem to be ok as they set higher with the ALL4.

 

Thanks All, when I wake up I'll go measure & see What It Is !

 

What is the benefit of alternating between the two? CeraTec is a blend of Moly (I assume MoS2) and Boron. See VOA here: Liqui Moly — SPEEDiagnostix

 

I'll read up on that link, but my reason for alternating was product explanation and two pieces of very specific guidance from a LiquiMoly engineer in a video posted up by FCP Euro. Link provided below.

There were two specific things the engineer said in the video that prompted me to use the schedule I do. Don't shoot the messenger here, just giving the TL;DR version of what was said in the vid without having to watch the whole thing to understand my post here. I assume they know their product and that the statements described are honest/factually accurate.

(1) As you've noted, part of CeraTec is effectively the MoS2 component -- which the engineer referred to loosely at one point in the discussion as CeraTec's "solids" -- and indicated that while the other components of CeraTec will last up to the 25K-30K mile mark before needing to add CeraTec again, the MoS2-equivalent "solids" would leave the engine with the very next oil change. This sets you up for a need to refresh said component of CeraTec if you care/want that component working for you/you get the idea.

(2) The engineer emphasized strongly that because of the MoS2 "solids" already being in CeraTec, one should NOT add MoS2 in the same oil change as one was adding CeraTec. Effectively you would be "doubling up" on the MoS2 and, well, he pretty much said don't do that.

The above explanations and admonitions from the LiquiMoly engineer in the video are the reasons for the alternation I use. No more no less, no fancy reasoning on my part. Just following their guidance from that particular video. Have not seen it addressed elsewhere (not that I have gone looking).

Curious as to your thoughts on the engineer's comments/guidance.

Link:

 

Thanks for the details - I'll read later tonight

 

Hope it's helpful. I recommend taking the full video in -- I have gone back to it two or three times for refresher/overview of how the various products do (and importantly, don't) work together, and to have clear understanding of their application scenarios (and lack thereof).