R56 Chasing Strange P0118 Scenario
Chasing Strange P0118 Scenario
Hey guys, hope y'all are hanging tight with Covid and all. It's been awhile since I last posted, but I've run into an oddity here. Long-ish post warning! First, some recent history (my car is a 2009 JCW):
- Anybody experienced a problem like this before? Would appreciate your assist.
- What is the proper way to test the CTS with a multimeter - can you backprobe (I don't think so in this case)?
- What about the wiring harness? Does it start from the CTS and routes directly to the ECU or does it traces further/somewhere else behind the engine?
Thanks in advance!
- Aaron
- Mid-June: Walnut blasted
- Same time: Changed water pump to address coolant leak. Replacement method: lowering/raising engine after removing engine mount without removing the friction pulley. Just removed WP pulley, then WP.
- Test drove no issues, no codes
- When parked in garage, a bigger coolant trickle, so changed coolant pipe (it had cracked). Removal method: removed airbox, lowered intake manifold (i.e. didn't remove from engine bay), removed thermostat housing. Burped the coolant system.
- Took it out for a proper test drive - when I fired it up, code P0118 / P0118PD appeared, so I thought hey, sensor dead, easy peasy, right? Nope. This is where I'm stuck...
- Engine starts perfect, not rough, heater blows hot after warming up, which are not symptoms of a bad CTS, IIRC. I'd clear code each time and code returns on start-up.
- Swapped out previous CTS with new one just for kicks - no dice - same issue, so back in the older one goes.
- Also found blown 7.5A blade fuse in engine compartment (fuse diagram shows something engine-related, but not sure exactly what). Replaced with new, and blew again. Bad ground? Short? But where? The only ground I know is the big one by the top-left engine mount, which I removed for the WP job. It was properly re-installed.
- Anybody experienced a problem like this before? Would appreciate your assist.
- What is the proper way to test the CTS with a multimeter - can you backprobe (I don't think so in this case)?
- What about the wiring harness? Does it start from the CTS and routes directly to the ECU or does it traces further/somewhere else behind the engine?
Thanks in advance!
- Aaron
Last edited by Aaron Leong; Jun 29, 2020 at 02:04 PM.
Your moves so far sound good. You said the heater gets hot; what about the rad? Is the thermostat functioning? Does your code reader give you coolant temp?
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
Your moves so far sound good. You said the heater gets hot; what about the rad? Is the thermostat functioning? Does your code reader give you coolant temp?
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
The single wire in front, double for the CTS, right? And on my JCW, I think those those connectors are color-coded to match the sensor connectors!
2012 mini
Your moves so far sound good. You said the heater gets hot; what about the rad? Is the thermostat functioning? Does your code reader give you coolant temp?
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
If you are blowing fuses, there's a problem. It may or may not even be related to your codes, but it's still a problem that should be fixed. (Please don't plug in a higher-rated fuse to stop it from blowing unless you like car fires).
After verifying that the thermostat is good, next thing I would suggest is check the wiring diagrams to see what that fuse does. Then you can start troubleshooting that issue. Electrical stuff gets complex quickly - I try to write down all the things I changed or tested to keep from getting confused, and undo steps I took that did not solve the problem.
I am missing FL7, FL10, FL12 and R4. The images related to these fuses look important but if the car works then are they necessary?
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