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Old Mar 20, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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Pad upgrade for wilwoods

I have a set of 11.75 wilwoods up front and am currently running the stock pads that came with the calipers does anyone know if you can get upgraded pads from anyone else other than wilwood. I tried to look and wasnt sure if they would work so i figure id ask if any has done this. Im mostly goin to be doing autocross and track days so id like a pad i can swap out wen at track for a lil better bite. This is the kit i have installed.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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EBC has pads that fit Wilwood

https://ebcbrakes.com/articles/wilwood/

EBC Brakes pad fitments for Wildwood racing calipers
 
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Old Mar 21, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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Thank you i never thought of goin onto the manufactures sites ive always been lookin on ecs n minimaina n places like that n never found anything.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 01:30 PM
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The pads shipped with the kit are BP20. An elevated street to very light duty track pad. They are in no way a racing compound.

Wilwood has a variety of pads to meet your need from street, to strip, AX and open track use.

https://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/brake-pads/

Yes the same pad plate can also be had from other suppliers.

 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 05:52 AM
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Any recommendations on best performing pads?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Squigglesr56
Any recommendations on best performing pads?

Performing how?

Hot? Cold? Low dust? Low noise? Rotor wear? Long life? High torque? Inexpensive?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 09:14 AM
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The car will be autocrossed mostly and 4 to 5 track days a year. I dont mind if they dust or are loud since its not my daily. Low to moderate rotor wear since there fairly cheap for the rings. Id like a pad that i can drive to the track, have good cold initial bite but not wry bout fade if im tracking it hard. Hope that will help narrow it down. Im looking at all these different charts and reading about all the different compounds n its pretty confusing.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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For AX the base BP10 is not bad. Want more initial bite a move to Poly E will work well but be noisy on the street.

For open track days and general performance street tires the Poly B pads will work- and feel free to run them hot. Going to better rubber and a more demanding track move to the Poly H compound. Point being you don't want more brake then you do tire.

Ideally; you'll have three sets of pads. Doing it on two can work but any pad purchase must match the requirements of the usage. Sadly no; you will not find one pad that will work "ideally" for all of this. It may be "ok" for a bit if you can stand the noise, dust, wear, fading and associated costs. But it will forever be a compromised system.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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I really like the raybestos ST 43-47 for HPDE, I even run them on the street but if they are cold/wet expect to press harder on the brake pedal

Even towing my HPDE trailer with the ST47 the car stops fine, I do block of my brake ducts though
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 10:30 AM
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I never thought about tire grip. Makes sence bout not havin more brake than tire. Thats some good insight!! I was thinking a 1 size fit all pad but with what u said makes sence having mutiple pads
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBlah
I really like the raybestos ST 43-47 for HPDE, I even run them on the street but if they are cold/wet expect to press harder on the brake pedal

Even towing my HPDE trailer with the ST47 the car stops fine, I do block of my brake ducts though
Ok thanks. Are thoes expensive? I see sum pad prides of 150+. And what kind of wear do you get. How long have you run them for?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Another question about wear in general. I kno im not goin to be getting as much pad life with tracking an autoxing but what is "normal" if im doin 10 autox events and say 5 track events will any pad last a season or should i expect to need a new set at some point. Also what do you guys run for fluid? I have the pentosin dot4 lv stuff in there just did a full flush before the winter. Should i swap it out for better fluid if so what kind? I figured better pad = more heat into fluid so mabey an issue there figured id ask
 
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Old Mar 25, 2020 | 01:00 PM
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Ok thanks. Are thoes expensive? I see sum pad prides of 150+. And what kind of wear do you get. How long have you run them for?
They're they're actually the cheapest trackpad I found they run about $100 a set I get two to three weekends at the track out of them but keep in mind I'm an instructor and I'm running on slicks whenever it's dry
 
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