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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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looking to upgrade turbo on 13 mcs

so ive been looking into new turbos ive heard good things about the jm40 and been leaning twords it. but i was lookin in ecs today and found the afe bladerunner gt series turbo. anybody ever use this turbo? how does it compare to the jm40? any thoughts???????
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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I don’t know about the other one, but I have a JM40 on my R60 and it’s a great little turbo. Feels bigger than 40mm to me, but who knows, I didn’t measure the vanes. With a tune to go with it, it’s really nice, not too big, so still a fast spool, but not so small that it runs out of breath.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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Thanks grumpy! Its good to hear u like it since ur stage 3 n thats whare id like to be at some point. I was worried about the clutch also. Is urs a stick or auto?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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Mine is an auto. But I know several people who have tunes including one just like mine but with a bit bigger turbo and the clutch is just fine. Talk to Mariokart about tuning and he can package a turbo and tune together too!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 04:35 AM
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Just installed the jmtcs42 on Saturday. 11mcs with 74000 miles on original clutch with rpm stage 3 tune. The s42 from what I have been told is 46mm not 42, doesn’t really matter to me because the power output is perfect. The clutch does not seem to have any problems holding the power on a hard Pull but haven’t had much time to put it through the ringer yet.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 05:22 AM
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O wow ok i thought a 42 might be to much from what i read but hearing that it gives me a lil more confidence in the clutch. Did you have to modify the intake tube? If you did do u have a cel from the pcv heater?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 07:34 AM
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Currently I am running the N14 JCW intake with a foam filter with stock intake piping. I pulled the rubber gasket off the intake pipe that connects to the turbo for a temporary solution. I am piecing together a new intake and jumping out the heaters using the jmtc inlet hose and a NM intake. You can get the resistors from NM to jump out the two heaters.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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The clutch is holding for now I’ll let you know in 1000 miles
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 07:49 AM
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did you ever hear about the bladerunner turbo from afe, i am wondering if this turbo is good.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:26 AM
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I've had several different turbo setups on my car. I have an '07 MCS Stage 3? I guess a turbo upgrade constitutes stage 3. Currently I'm running the Borg Warner Airwerks Turbo, and I think it's great. I found it for a great price, under $1,000 brand new from LMPerformance online, no complaints. When I was looking at turbo options, I also stumbled upon the TTE300, which I almost bought, , but found such a great deal on the Airwerks, I couldn't pass it up. Depending on how big of a turbo you're looking for, I would recommend the Airwerks. They're supposedly good up until 300hp, which I haven't seen many stock bottom end cars exceed.

I've had a stock MCS Turbo to start, then went to a JCW, then to a JM40 (sold on NAM), then to the Airwerks, so I have some experience with a couple different setups.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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What is your experience with the JCW vs the MCS turbo?

Mario(mQubed) has a JCW turbo i am thinking of snagging if my MCS turbo is failing. I want Marios 43/56 turbo buts parts are delayed right now.

Were you on stage 3 tune with the JCW turbo?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:34 AM
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I was not on the stage 3 tune on the JCW, unfortunately.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 06:52 AM
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how was it compared to the S turbo at the time?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:05 AM
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The JCW was definitely an improvement over the stock MCS, but it wasn't like stepping out of a mini and into a supercar or anything. It will be a subtle improvement over the MCS. You'll get a little higher range for power delivery, lag wasn't terribly increased since it's still a small turbo. The Airwerks delivers even more, and a bit farther into the higher RPM range, with no real sacrifice in spool.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 02:42 AM
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Hey BRGMCouper, I have an S42 right now and its failing on me (wastegate is going bad, super gone already lol) and I'm greatly considering an Airwerks. What made you switch over? How's the Airwerks holding up? Also how's your driving style, I want to make sure I have no more issues at the track
(Sorry for thread hijacking lol)
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 06:03 AM
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my airwerks is getting installed now so when i get it i will get you some feed back
 
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Post part numbers and sources to help out everyone else. Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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Borg Warner Air Werks 41mm turbo installed. She is running very smooth and there is no lag it feels like to this turbo.Definitely a power improvement over the stock unit, but fits like a glove.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CakeEater
Borg Warner Air Werks 41mm turbo installed. She is running very smooth and there is no lag it feels like to this turbo.Definitely a power improvement over the stock unit, but fits like a glove.
Nice! Post the part number and a link to where you purchased it, I'm interested in this!
 
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by squawSkiBum
Nice! Post the part number and a link to where you purchased it, I'm interested in this!
This is the cheapest I've found online looking I found the link in another thread that someone bought it from (ECS is $1160). Part number is 5303 988 0146
https://www.lmperformance.com/112243...p-upgrade.html
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by squawSkiBum
Nice! Post the part number and a link to where you purchased it, I'm interested in this!

I purchased mine from ECS, here is the link. As the other member posted, the part# is: 5303 988 0146
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-borgwarn...space-0146~bw/

Along with the turbo, i also picked up the install kit, the oil filter housing gasket kit, and M7 Green intake tube for the N18 motor
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...53039880146kt/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...1428643747kt2/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-m7-speed...56-318204~m7s/


The M7 green intake tube was $50 less when i purchased it! WOOHOO

The car is running much smoother with this new turbo installed. I also found out my last shop that "walnut blasted" my intake valves 15,000 miles ago did a SH** job, so i had that done again as well.

She rips

EDIT: Also, I picked up the forge turbo blanket, because WMW turbo blanket was backordered. Here is the link to that product on both ECS and WMW site!
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-forge-pa...w/fmtubl4~frg/
https://www.waymotorworks.com/forge-...-cooper-s.html
 
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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 09:30 PM
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Email MarioKart. He knows a lot and paired with an RPM tune you'll soon be afraid of whether your reflexes are fast enough to control the torque steer!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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i've been in touch and really wanted to go with his tune/RPM tune but i chose my local shop to do my tuning incase of issue, its on stage 2 right now, max 18psi boost, and its running smooth as butter.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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I have no issues running 22psi of boost on a rebuilt JCW turbo, worked head, supertec valve springs, catless downpipe, JCW exhaust. RPM stage 3. If you can find a good used low km JCW I would go with that unless you plan on running cams and more than 22 psi boost.
 
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