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Old Sep 26, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Question Replaced plugs and coils, still getting misfire codes... What's the next step?

Hey Guys, Obviously just joined the site 'cause I'm at a cross-roads and wanted some advice from anyone that's experienced the mis-fire codes and still had trouble after replacing the spark plugs and coil packs.

I was going to attack the intake/valves to make sure they're nice and shiny then I was thinking..... PCV system maybe...?

Any help would be great. By the way, it's a 2012 Countryman 'S'... blue ('cause someone will think that matters).

In advance, thank you SO much for any guidance.

-Trevor

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Old Sep 26, 2018 | 10:03 AM
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What codes exactly and how many miles on the car. Some have replaced coils with non OEM and still had issues. Other misfires are often caused by a bad High Pressure Fuel Pump in the MINI. Exactly what my problem was. I had misfire codes and a HPFP code. Some HPFPs are covered under an extended 10 year warranty. Run the VIN # by the dealer if that is a possible solution.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2018 | 08:06 PM
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I have the same problem today. 2013 countryman S. Engine light came on, low power, #2 cylinder miss fire. I wanted to see if it was the coil pack or spark plug. so i swap them to other ones. Still get #2 miss fire. Then i unplug #2 while engine running and nothing change. But all the other ones when I unplug, engine idle changes. Is it possible my #2 connector broke?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2018 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyelight22
I have the same problem today. 2013 countryman S. Engine light came on, low power, #2 cylinder miss fire. I wanted to see if it was the coil pack or spark plug. so i swap them to other ones. Still get #2 miss fire. Then i unplug #2 while engine running and nothing change. But all the other ones when I unplug, engine idle changes. Is it possible my #2 connector broke?
Yes, it’s possible, it Could be in the wire itself as well....or it could be caused be something else entirely. First you need to determine if it’s a spark or fuel issue. That’s probably the first thing to do. Then you can further diagnose from there.

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Old Sep 27, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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Change plugs to new ones. still having misfires. Check plugs 2 are kind of wet. When car running notice lights are fading in and out. Check battery voltage. Says I’m getting 13.0 to 12.8. Is that low? Possible I’m not getting enough voltage to spark.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 11:40 AM
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Get battery tested if you have any question. Minis do NOT like a flakey battery. All kinds of screwy things will have you chasing your tail. Typically free at a local parts place.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scf
Get battery tested if you have any question. Minis do NOT like a flakey battery. All kinds of screwy things will have you chasing your tail. Typically free at a local parts place.
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A battery that is going bad can cause all sorts of electrical gremlins. You will also need to see if you have the intelligent battery system. If so, the new battery will need to be registered to the car. Basically if you have a little black flat square box on the negative cable, then a new battery needs registration. The dealer will be happy to charge for this! Lol....or if you know someone with a Schwaben scan tool, or one of the others that will do it, you can save some dough, it’s a five minute job at most. Where are you located?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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By the way, what are you using to check the codes? And are you getting any?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 03:59 PM
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Problem solved. I had a bad coil pack for #2. started car after i installed brand new spark plugs. Then while car running disconnected coil pack one by one. With #2 disconnected, the engine didn't do anything. turn off car pulled #2 spark plug and it was still nice and shiny. Went to NAPA got a new coil pack. Installed. Car runs like normal now. 3 weeks ago I had to change the thermostat housing. Feel like after I hit the 97k things started going bad for this car. Thank you guys for the help. I hope this helps others too.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 07:49 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I've been so busy I totally forgot to check back. Okay, so I had already put new plugs in (ngk laser iridium 95770) and got new coil packs in there before my original post so those should be good.

I'll test the battery and see what I can find there. Codes would be the P0300, 0301, 0303, 0304, 0442, 0455 - so your standard mis-fire codes along with a side of Emissions codes.

Something to note... well let me preface by saying this is the first time I've touched this vehicle and the most recent repair was about 6 months ago when the dealership replaced the turbo - but when the car first started running rough about 10 days ago, I took a peek under the hood to see if anything was obvious and the O2 sensor off the turbo was completely loose. Like wiggle back and forth loose so I naturally thought 'Bingo! Problem solved'. Sadly that just seemed to make things worse.

Anyway, I've got the intake off and the next step was going to be cleaning the valves out.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2018 | 09:35 PM
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The loose O2 sensor shouldn’t have done much, maybe one of your emissions related codes, but probably not. It may have made the car a bit louder.... lol.
Have you looked to be sure the valves need blasted? If you do it, post up how it went and if it helped the issues
 
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Old Sep 30, 2018 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
The loose O2 sensor shouldn’t have done much, maybe one of your emissions related codes, but probably not. It may have made the car a bit louder.... lol.
Have you looked to be sure the valves need blasted? If you do it, post up how it went and if it helped the issues
Well the valves look pretty filthy from what I can see with my endoscope... I have no idea how the hell i'm supposed to clean them though but it looks like it'd be easier to pop the head off rather than trying to shove my fingers into the valve ports with paper towels.

I was surprised at how 'black' the spark plugs came out just from about 30 seconds of running the engine before shutting it down. Plugs were dry, though.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2018 | 02:49 AM
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The way to do it is walnut shell blasting, there are some write ups on the site here for how to do it and what you need. I’ve seen one before where a guy did it using brushes from a gun cleaner kit, maybe check for that too.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2018 | 05:51 PM
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I've had many of these same problems also in my 2012 base countryman. I have codes P300/301/303 along with P0128. I've changed all the spark plugs and ignition coils. When replacing the plugs I noticed oil in the tube. So I ended up replacing the valve cover gasket also. Am also getting code P0128 concerning low temp on the thermostat. I replaced that a few months back. Still getting all of these codes. I've had the battery checked and it still was good. I am pretty much at a loss of what to do next besides brining it to a local shop to figure out. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2018 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by absolutrux
I've had many of these same problems also in my 2012 base countryman. I have codes P300/301/303 along with P0128. I've changed all the spark plugs and ignition coils. When replacing the plugs I noticed oil in the tube. So I ended up replacing the valve cover gasket also. Am also getting code P0128 concerning low temp on the thermostat. I replaced that a few months back. Still getting all of these codes. I've had the battery checked and it still was good. I am pretty much at a loss of what to do next besides brining it to a local shop to figure out. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.
If I remember correctly, I just read a service bulletin about this..... I just replaced my t-stat last weekend. I recall reading that there was a fix for the temp issue depending on which thermostat you have (there have been a few revisions) but there is a temperature sensor that replaced the one in the thermostat housing, if I read it correctly, it screws in where the bleeder screw is. You may want to look into that as an source of the problem
 
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Old Oct 15, 2018 | 08:12 AM
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Make sure the spark plug gap didn’t change. Should be 0.60 mm to 0.65 mm, if the gap is too wide you’ll get sputtering and misfires. Not saying this is the exact fix but it definitely fits the symptoms
 
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