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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 05:24 AM
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Serpentine belt issues

I own a 2005 s. I recently changed my serpentine belt and am still experiencing a problem. I'm getting a noise that seems to be coming from the supercharger but I'm not sure what the problem is. The car turns on perfectly fine but when I try to drive it, I'm getting close to no power and eventually I can barely move. I have no idea what the problem is, any thoughts?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 06:33 AM
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You need to describe the noise or provide a sound profile of it. Is the noise coming from one side or the other of the SC?. Is your temp. gauge spiking?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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Sorry. It's a rattling noise. Can't really tell what side it was coming from. Car starts to overheat if I try driving it.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 07:18 AM
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Sounds like a tensioner issue or harmonic balancer, I'd inspect the pulleys on the passenger side. Take of the passenger whee and remove the fender liner and check the pulleys for any damage or play.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 12:50 PM
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Might be a harmonic balancer....
Or possibly a dramatically missized belt and or a bad tensioner....
Any belt squeel noise? Yes...then a shorter belt...I know the belt sizes sold in many stores us longer than stock...and many cars have a smaller sc pulley, making it worse...then add a weak tensioner...could be it.

But I'm betting $5 the crank damper is bad....read up.
The rattle I think is the tell...the rubber sheered....so it slipping.
Fix...a new crank damper OEM, or upgraded unit like a ATI or PRW.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Do you smell a melting rubber smell? Usually you'll get a smell when the crank pulley fails.

Is the battery light on, or have you lost power steering? If yes to either then the belt being the wrong size is a possibility.

I have seen tensioners fail, but not bad enough to relieve tension and cause the car to overheat, anythings possible though.

If you are getting a noise from the SC area and the car is overheating there is the possibility you need a SC. Do you have a reduction pulley on the car? Is the pulley slipping on the SC shaft? That can also cause the problems you are describing.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 07:45 AM
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Do you smell a melting rubber smell? Usually you'll get a smell when the crank pulley fails.

Is the battery light on, or have you lost power steering? If yes to either then the belt being the wrong size is a possibility.

I have seen tensioners fail, but not bad enough to relieve tension and cause the car to overheat, anythings possible though.

If you are getting a noise from the SC area and the car is overheating there is the possibility you need a SC. Do you have a reduction pulley on the car? Is the pulley slipping on the SC shaft? That can also cause the problems you are describing.


So yesterday I turned the car on. Check engine light was off, wasn't making any noise. I take it around the block and starts making noise again and the battery light turns on. I open the hood and take a look. The belt is getting eaten away. Less than half of the belt is left. Continues to over heat. Supercharger needs to be replaced?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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So yesterday I turned the car on. Check engine light was off, wasn't making any noise. I take it around the block and starts making noise again and the battery light turns on. I open the hood and take a look. The belt is getting eaten away. Less than half of the belt is left. Continues to over heat. Supercharger needs to be replaced?
You need to diagnose what is causing the belt to shred, and stop driving the car immediately until you've remedied the problem.

Get the car on a hoist or jack stands, detension the belt, spin each of the pulleys in the accessory drive by hand, a component that faulty will be noticeable when spun by hand.

The fact that you got a battery light leads me to believe your alternator is seizing/seized.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nkfry
You need to diagnose what is causing the belt to shred, and stop driving the car immediately until you've remedied the problem.

Get the car on a hoist or jack stands, detension the belt, spin each of the pulleys in the accessory drive by hand, a component that faulty will be noticeable when spun by hand.

The fact that you got a battery light leads me to believe your alternator is seizing/seized.
I also forgot to mention that I lost power steering. Don't know it'll that helps any
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:35 AM
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Belts do fail...
Sometimes from a bad tensioner....
Sometimes from age...
Sometimes from being connected to a bad crank damper....
Don't jump to the conclusion that the supercharger is bad cause the belt failed.
You need to investigate.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 09:35 AM
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I also forgot to mention that I lost power steering. Don't know it'll that helps any
Nope...when the alternator stops....the PS pump turns off to save the battery.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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It sounds like the supercharger is going bad and causing the belt to die quickly. You can check the supercharger by removing the belt and turning it by hand. If its very hard to turn or sticks and releases then the rotors are hitting the case and binding causing the lose of power and belt problems.
If the crank pulley is bad - remove the belt and try to spin the out ring of the pulley without turning the center. If it moves the pulley is bad. But when they go bad they dont make noise most of the time just rubber burning smell.
The alt light came on because the belt is slipping on the alt and not turning it causing the light to come on.
 
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