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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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'05 JCW noise (timing chain or belt noise?)

Hey guys I'm trying to figure out what this noise might be. I've got a new belt and belt tensioner system on the way this week but I'm wondering if the noise is more of a timing chain noise.

My last mini I seem to remember making a bunch of noise around the passenger side valve cover but nothing as loud as all the "timing chain tensioner" videos I see on youtube.

Here is what it sounds like. Any help is appreciated.

 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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Hi Drew!

Sounds are so difficult to diagnose. It's difficult to weed out the 'normal' engine sounds and identify the 'noise.'

That said, it sounds like it could be:

1. timing chain or related components
2. idler pulley
3. supercharger

In other words - too difficult to say from the video.

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Ditto, unless it's the obvious Timing Chain Tensioner, it's really difficult to say.
Best bet, get an automotive stethoscope to help pinpoint the location better.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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If your belt and tensioner doesn't do it, it sounds a lot like my car when I was having lifter (hydraulic lash adjuster) / cam noise. Pull the valve cover off, and check the rocker arms for wiggle. Visually inspect the cam carefully, it's best to remove the rocker arms to get a better look see...
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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I think I'll pick up a new chain tensioner and do that as well and see if it goes away. I don't think it's the supercharger because it's quieter closer to the front of the car. It's loudest at the top/back of the valve cover on the passenger side. If that doesn't do it I'll pull the valve cover when I get the chance to check it out.

Thank you guys.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 08:14 AM
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Seems like the new belt tensioner quieted things down. I still hear something but it's a lot quieter.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DrewWphoto
Seems like the new belt tensioner quieted things down. I still hear something but it's a lot quieter.
Originally Posted by DrewWphoto
I think I'll pick up a new chain tensioner and do that as well and see if it goes away. I don't think it's the supercharger because it's quieter closer to the front of the car. It's loudest at the top/back of the valve cover on the passenger side. If that doesn't do it I'll pull the valve cover when I get the chance to check it out.

Thank you guys.

So you changed the BELT tensioner but not the timing chain tensioner you asked about?

I your most recent video it sounds like you have a very loose belt...it's nearly squeeling at 800 rpm before there is even a load on the sc...
What belt did you get? Often the stock size belts that parts counters push are too long...even for a stick pulley.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2016 | 10:15 AM
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Yes, I ordered the chain tensioner as well but the belt and belt tensioner got here first. Haha.
 
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