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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Replacing Brake Fluid on R56S

Hey Guys,

I have a 2013 MCS I am trying to get it set up for track days. One of the requirements is High temperature brake fluid. I was looking at different options to bleeding out the brake system but it all seems to lead to requiring the specific tool from MINI or BMW to do the replacement.

Do you guys know of anything that can be done aside from going to the shop directly or bypassing this?

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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Saovalle
Hey Guys,

I have a 2013 MCS I am trying to get it set up for track days. One of the requirements is High temperature brake fluid. I was looking at different options to bleeding out the brake system but it all seems to lead to requiring the specific tool from MINI or BMW to do the replacement.

Do you guys know of anything that can be done aside from going to the shop directly or bypassing this?

Thanks!
I replaced the fluid in my 2011 MCS with Torque RT700. Just vacuumed out the brake fluid reservoir, filled with RT700, and completely bled system one wheel at a time til I got fresh fluid out of each bleeder. Start at the wheel farthest from the master cylinder and work your way around, ending with the left front. Don't forget to check the level often. I started with my clutch slave first, since the clutch uses the same fluid reservoir. I needed no special tools, besides the fluid vacuum. Of course, your 2013 could be different....
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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I used the Motive Power Bleeder. Pretty easy to do. Nice bonus: You can use it to pressure test your cooling system to!
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 12:45 PM
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I used the Motive Power Bleeder. Pretty easy to do. Nice bonus: You can use it to pressure test your cooling system to!
I also bought a Motive Power Bleeder to do a brake fluid flush and it was very easy. Just start from the brake furthest away from the reservoir, open the bleed valve and wait til fresh fluid starts pouring out. Rinse and repeat for each wheel!
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 06:57 PM
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What about the requirement of needing the factory computer diagnostic program?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 08:07 PM
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Flushing the fluid does not require a computer.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 02:55 PM
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You can get the motive bleeder and do it, only reason to pulsate the abs system , is if you get air in there from cracking a line up there for a repair, or sometimes get air into the system, rare. Most of the time its fine and power bleeder does the job. One person job.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Awesome! thanks, what adapter will i need for the power bleeder?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 05:25 AM
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Nothing, it comes with the bleeder adapter to fit the MINI master cylinder reservoir

I run ATE 200 as ATE Superblue is NLA now. 200 meets the Dot 4 requirement. 1 can gave me enough on the r52.


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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Great! thats the fluid im thinking of running for my track day!
I am doing my first track day april 9-10th and i am just trying to prep the car for it!

I need to do my coolant as well. A lot of the people told me to run 75% water and 25% Coolant.

Any other advice ECStuning??
 
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 06:39 PM
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Is Pentosin Super Dot 4 brake fluid good enough for city driving?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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I like the ATE , but the Pentosin is good stuff.

Most guys do 50/50 coolant / distilled water even for track days unless you car is highly highly modified. 50/50 is for like 90% of MINI, some people in other countries that are Mexico / below and desert regions will do 60/40 water / coolant.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 05:50 PM
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Hey ECSTuning I sent you a Private message!

Thanks so much for your help and advice!
 
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Originally Posted by Saovalle

I need to do my coolant as well. A lot of the people told me to run 75% water and 25% Coolant.
You can look into racing type coolant, but remember that if you live in a place that gets freezing temps, you'll want to change it back out when it gets colder. I run Penrite racing coolant HERE. Made the mistake of leaving it in when we got a snow fall and the car began to overheat. Had to swap it out the next day. It really does great for track driving though.
 
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Is Pentosin Super Dot 4 brake fluid good enough for city driving?
Yes, for city driving it is absolutely fine: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg2.htm#item7.
 
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I live in Florida so i dont have to deal with freezing temperatures. its always hot and whatnot here! but thanks pelican!
 
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Yes, for city driving it is absolutely fine: http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg2.htm#item7.
I am not using the low viscosity will there be any issue?
 
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Originally Posted by Club77
I am not using the low viscosity will there be any issue?
Overlooked you said Super. Pentosin recommends for your MINI the 4 Dot LV, which has a higher wet boiling point. The difference with the Super Dot 4 and the Dot 4 LV is the wet boiling point according to Pentosin HERE.
 
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I live in Florida so i dont have to deal with freezing temperatures. its always hot and whatnot here! but thanks pelican!
Then you're good to go. I'd recommend the Penrite if you can get your hands on it or have it shipped to you from Australia. They pulled out of the U.S. market about a year ago so not sure if you'll be able to get it in the states. I still have some so I haven't had the need to source it yet. This page here has some more really good info about it, http://www.penriteoil.com.au/product...id_products=98. I'm sure you could find another product that is local, but I like Penrite due to a few factors.
 
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Originally Posted by PelicanParts.com
Overlooked you said Super. Pentosin recommends for your MINI the 4 Dot LV, which has a higher wet boiling point. The difference with the Super Dot 4 and the Dot 4 LV is the wet boiling point according to Pentosin HERE.
I am using Super Dot 4 without LV. As my Town is always hot summer. Thanks for the info.
 
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