Just bought a new set of 215/40/16 A3S03s for $432 direct from Hoosier. They are closing out their stock of this discontinued tire. Call 574-784-3152 or go to http://www.hoosiertire.com/r3s03sal.HTM

 

That is a great deal!

 

For the MINI there isn't much left in stock for either 15" or 17" tires.

Alex@tirerack had some really good things to say about the newer S04 Hoosiers so don't fret if you can't find something of your size.

 

They look great! Excellent cost (I think). Good for you, ggp! Enjoy:smile:

 

As of yesterday they had 203 A-compound 215/40/16s left; they were out or very low on most other sizes.

 

I picked up used 205-50-15's for free at my last national.....17" jobs turn PKT RKT into a mangy dog.......15" jobs keep it at plain dog.....

 

Hmmm, must be that pocketrocketowner charm.

Marty

 

Is there any reason why this thread on Hoosiers is in H-stock forum?
I thought that H-stock did not allow for any legal race tire like a Hoosier to be used?
(Edit- Oops- see explanation below)

 

These Hoosiers are DOT approved race tires, therefore, you can use them in stock class.

 

Minihune,
Yep you are a little confused (pretty easy dealing with SCCA rules)
ST classes (STS, STX, STU, STS2) must use street tires with at least a 140 tread wear rating.
Stock, Street Prepared and Street Mod (+ SM2) can use any DOT certified tire (meeting availability minimums, but most do) so Kumhos Hoosier A3S03's and A3S04s, etc.
Prepared and Mod can use any tire, including full race slicks.

 

OK, I'm looking in the 2004 SCCA National solo rule book under
13. Stock Category
13.3 Non OE tires must meet the following requirements to be eligible for use in stock category.
c. The tire model must have DOT approval.
e. No racing tire may be used.
h. Each tire must have non zero measurable tread depth.

So the Hoosier (DOT legal competition tire) with a tread rating of 40 is not a "racing tire" and at 4/32" tread when new, needs to have some measurable tread depth to stay legal in stock classes.

With use in autocross, how soon does the Hoosier resemble a slick with no measurable tread depth? It isn't the easiest tire to race on and alex@tirerack.com has warned me it isn't for the average beginner.

 

Because the circumfrencial (sp?) grooves going around the tire are spaced in the center, the least used portion of an autocross tire, you'll tend to cord the tire on the inside or outside edges before you ever completely loose the groove making them illegal.

Yes, Hoosiers are NOT for beginners, and definitely not if you don't have a lot of money. Many vets have seen a BRAND NEW set of Hoosiers corded on one run because of a spinout which flatspots them so severely down to the cord.

Once you understand them, and you're careful, you can achieve maximum life and performance from them.

BTW, the S03 is MUCH better designed for the camber challenged cars like the MINI. There is actually more rubber on the shoulders of the S03's. I believe the ultimate stick goes to the S04, but just barely, and at the cost of shorter life (on camber challenged cars).

If you're not running Nationally and want to run Hoosiers, buy up the rest of those S03's!

Brian

 

Got the Hoosiers in. They are significantly wider than the 205/45/16 Kumho V700 Ecstas we have on the car now. So much wider that I am concerned about fitment.

When mounted on stock R83 wheels (and with no spacers) will they fit without rubbing?

 

They fit no problem. I ran them at the Atwater Pro on V-Spokes.

 

When the tires are not mounted they look really wide but once mounted the rim holds them in place and the width of the tire is also affected. It's always best to match a rim width with the specific tire you plan to use.

If you shoehorn a wide tire on a narrow rim it will reduce the effective width of the tire and reduce the contact patch. It's a compromise.

If you do have Hoosiers just be careful when using them and try to get a feel for how they perform before going all out. Those with very smooth shifting, throttle and braking styles will do well. Once the cords show through the rubber you cannot use the tire.

As an example of camber challenged, the stock MINI has a front camber of about -0.5 degrees while a good front camber (with camber plates ) is about -2.2 to -2.4 degrees.
More negative camber helps tires to contact the ground more evenly, thus heating up better, performing better, and wearing better.

 

So let me understand this once again. The 215/40/16 Hoosiers WILL in fact mount on the 16x6.5 wheels? The hoosier site shows that a 7.5 rim is the "recommended" miniumum width.

 

Yes they fit... they are the same width and height as the 205/45/16 A3S04s