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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 04:14 AM
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Mini Speedometer in a Strange Place?

Does anybody find the speedometer in the Mini placed in the middle distracting while driving. the driver has to look to the middle of the dash to find out how fast they are going. Is there a digital speedo on the tachometer in front of the driver?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 04:18 AM
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Yes, located in the window in the lower portion of the tach...

...the newest design moves the speedo to in front of the driver
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 04:39 AM
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...the newest design moves the speedo to in front of the driver
altho i can't argue with doing this the traditionalist in me crys out "blasphemy ! that's not as mini !"
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 05:19 AM
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Which design is this? The 2015 countryman (in the UK at least) is still showing the speedo in the centre of the dash in all the pictures and the mini configurator. They've just changed the dial colours to black.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:05 AM
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I got this picture from car and driver, this picture of the 2015 CM shows the speedo in the center:

 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:55 AM
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The classic mini was built on a rotating jig, the center mounted speedo covering the hole in the dash from the pivot pole that ran the length of the car.

The modern MINI stuck with tradition, a good thing.

That said all modern MINIs have also had a secondary digital speedo on the tach.

The tach is the more important anyway, helps you with shifting, all MINIs are manual, right ;-)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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I rarely look at the center speedo and rely on the digital readout front and center. Awkward is the word!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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Here's some more comments on the subject. I notice a huge lack of input from the hard core traditionalists however.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...eedometer.html
The center speedo was very useful back in the day when MINI was winning rallies right and left. The navigator was the primary user of the gauge so it was put there so he could see it and still keep track of his Curta and became as much a hallmark as the overall design.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The X Men
I got this picture from car and driver, this picture of the 2015 CM shows the speedo in the center:
I believe JABowders meant the 2015 Cooper Hardtops have moved the speedo over with the tach. The other models have yet to adopt this design.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dongood

That said all modern MINIs have also had a secondary digital speedo on the tach.

The tach is the more important anyway, helps you with shifting, all MINIs are manual, right ;-)
I can understand that the tach is more important if you have a manual, but for an automatic, the tach is pretty useless. It would make more sense to place the speedo in front of the driver in a automatic.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Thanks jonnieoh, a picture is worth a thousand words
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The X Men
I can understand that the tach is more important if you have a manual, but for an automatic, the tach is pretty useless. It would make more sense to place the speedo in front of the driver in a automatic.
I dont think they are going to build MINI's with the speedo in two different locations depending on whether you have an auto or a manual.

I like the center mounted speedo, dont find it 'awkward' and do use it probably more than the digital readout. Then again i once owned an original Mini.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Come to think of it, I never use the center speedometer.
It looks really cool at night but use the digital one on the tach for driving.

The old nostalgic features are nice tho.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:52 AM
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There's a speedometer in the middle?

Hmm...I've always used the SPEED display on the tach.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 01:11 AM
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Just economics, in the middle was the only real instrument in the early days.You don't have to change a lot for LHD and RHD.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gregus73
Come to think of it, I never use the center speedometer.
It looks really cool at night but use the digital one on the tach for driving.

The old nostalgic features are nice tho.


It seems to me the speed in the middle is form over function. In this day of all the devices that can distract the driver, the center speedo is just another of those device. Its a good thing there is a digital speedo in front.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 09:01 AM
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Should stick to your Chevy or Ford then if you are that easily distracted.... as mentioned by a few already, the center speedo pays homage to the original Mini.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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I personally don't stare at the speedo. I'm usually looking at the road. Plus I hardly use the speedo anyway. More of a drive by feel kind of person. Pretty accurate actually. About the only time I look at it is when I'm on the highway and the speed zone changes. But everyone has their preference I suppose.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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I think if you know the history of the Mini, you can appreciate the dash layout. It's just one more thing that makes the car just a little different, which to me is its main attraction.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle
I think if you know the history of the Mini, you can appreciate the dash layout. It's just one more thing that makes the car just a little different, which to me is its main attraction.


I am not the type of person who likes things just because it is different. A bad design is still a bad design even if some people thinks its cool and it is unique.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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I wouldn't call this a bad design at all. In others cars you have to look down to see your speed. You take your eyes off the road to do so. While you're looking down at your speed you use your peripheral vision to keep you eye on the road. The same can be said about this design. You look to the right and down while keeping your peripheral vision on the road. And actually, while driving this morning I did a check to see how long it took to check my speed and look back up. I used the center speedo, and the digital tach speedo. The speed difference was indiscernible.


So, long story short, not bad design, just not what most people are used to. After driving a MINI for 5 years I can say that in some cars the speedo is so small and in a little cup type of instrument cluster that I think that's hard to read. You adapt or change what you unable to adapt to.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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I never use the digital speedo in the tach window. Like the big center speedo. The lack of o,e in the news MINIs is a -1 for me.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey_t
Should stick to your Chevy or Ford then if you are that easily distracted.... as mentioned by a few already, the center speedo pays homage to the original Mini.
^^ This. ^^
 
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The X Men
I am not the type of person who likes things just because it is different.
Then why would you even consider a MINI or were you simply showing up here just to criticize the car??? You definitely need to buy something other than a MINI.
 
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