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R60 Getting tired of slow acceleration

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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Getting tired of slow acceleration

Wish I had the Turbo... Even my 1996 old Honda Civic has more pickup than my 2013 CM.

When I push the pedal all the way down, I don't need to wait 2 seconds before the engine kicks in. It's a little better in Sport mode, but not as good as my old Honda.

It's still a fun car to drive with its handling, but wished it had "normal" acceleration instead of a "slow" reaction to pushing the pedal to the metal.

Just venting.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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Did you not test drive it?
 
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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I complained about the same thing about a year ago on this forum....the only response I got was "fly by wire" meaning the pedal controls the engine electronically
 
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Get the JB+

Installed in my wife's R60 for our road trip and it was a blast. But She has the All 4 Sport... Not much throttle lag. JB just increases the fun...
 
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 09:06 PM
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a sprint booster will clean up that fly by wire lag as well. the jb+ and sprint booster give it that mini go cart feel again.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 07:09 AM
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he has the non turbo, so the JB+ is not an option. He should sell the car.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Life is a ***** eh
 
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 07:27 AM
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What year is it? The Sprintbooster does not work with 13+. I've tried two different units and then contacted Sprintbooster USA and they told me that they are working on it for the 13+. We live in NC near the mountains and the Justa CM just doesn't cut it! We traded our 13 in for a 14 All4 two months ago and it's been great!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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I hope they figure it out, I would like one for my 13.
 

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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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My CM is a 2013.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Pick up a Sprint Booster. That will bring some happiness back to you.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ive's Mini
Pick up a Sprint Booster. That will bring some happiness back to you.
I'm guessing you missed Mr Jim's post.....
 
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 03:05 AM
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Jicm,
This may seem elementary, but have you tried driving in the "DS" - sport mode full-time?

I just came from a MUCH more powerful car (323, HP 6 sp manual), to the Countryman 1.6 NA Auto, and though at times in "D" the throttle lag, and overall response can be a bit soft, in "DS", I find the car to be near perfect for around town/commuting. I commute in/out of DC from NOVA every day.

In "DS", the car completely transforms into a different car altogether, at least from my perspective.
1) throttle tip-in is more precise/aggressive
2) shifts are very intuitive on hilly roads, gears are held longer, downshifts are near perfect
3) it does not default to the lower gears on hills unless absolutely necessary, making for a more predictable, and enjoyable drive
4) It does not lag around in 6th all the time, thus making the car far more responsive when feeding light throttle up hills, around city streets
and.....I have noticed no difference in MPG at this point. (27mpg, only 600 miles on it, 32 mph avg)

My only adjustments: lighter on throttle, unless I really want to zip off a light, and the up-shift into 6th does not occur until 59mph, which at first bugged me - no more. It makes the car way more responsive, and has not hurt the mileage. FYI - it is not good to lug around on OD at low sepeeds anyway - that shift puts a lot of strain on an auto. Ithink they did a fabulous job on the DS mapping, and the tranny programming. I have been having a great ride every day, and w/o trying, leaving most folks behind off stop lights. No one has been pushing me up any hills so far!

(we get a lot of that around here)
 

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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. jim
What year is it? The Sprintbooster does not work with 13+. I've tried two different units and then contacted Sprintbooster USA and they told me that they are working on it for the 13+. We live in NC near the mountains and the Justa CM just doesn't cut it! We traded our 13 in for a 14 All4 two months ago and it's been great!
Did they explain whether it's a case of the Sprint Booster just not having an effect on 2013+ models, throwing a CEL, or is it not mapping the throttle the way they intend? This is the second time in a week I've heard of there being compatibility issues with the CM, but the other post only claimed it didn't work with JCW models.

And here I've actually been running a SB on my 2014 CM JCW since the second week of May, 2000+ miles. It at least seems to work just fine (no CEL's either), and there's a noticeable difference between the off/stock setting, and both the mid and high. However, if even Sprint Booster is stating that it shouldn't be working on newer models, it makes me wonder what I'm doing differently, or if the increased throttle response I'm experiencing could be better.

- Beavz0r
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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the non-S countryman and your 96 civic probably have about the same power to weight ratio. what trim level was it? DX? EX?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2014 | 03:07 AM
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After reading "Limp Mode Due To Carbon B/U"....and seeing a plethora of other threads regarding various forms of turbo failure/annoyances, .......

I will go out and kiss my non-turbo CM! In DS, it is very peppy and fun to drive, and is getting 29mpg on a commute, and rising every day. Turbos are cool (had 2), but finicky, fragile, and have a very finite life span. The NA version of the this Prince engine should run for some time, free of all the turbo related stresses/troubles. Slow is just fine for me.
 
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