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Old May 12, 2014 | 07:09 AM
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Injen Short Ram Intake

Anyone have or know about this Injen short ram cold air intake? Fits several Gen 2 models 2011-up, including the '14 S Coupe I just ordered. Sounds interesting.

http://www.motoringwerks.com/p-4773-...m-intakes.aspx
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Herby74
Anyone have or know about this Injen short ram cold air intake? Fits several Gen 2 models 2011-up, including the '14 S Coupe I just ordered. Sounds interesting.

http://www.motoringwerks.com/p-4773-...m-intakes.aspx
Whats to Rram or cold-air about it?
It shoves an open cylindrical air filter towards the passenger side strut tower, then "shields" it from all known sources of cold air inside the engine bay (e.g.: factory cold-air plumbing!) and slams it shut against the hood ?

Product description is pure fluff.

Claimed HP/Torque gains take the cake: 2-decimal precision of promised gains, when virtually all dynamometers have 1-decimal precision, or round to the nearest integer given the +/- single integer level of measurement accuracy.

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Old May 18, 2014 | 11:40 PM
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For that price. Just go with the DDMWorks Street Intake. Looks much better and you will get a nice turbo sound out of it. Injen one looks crooked and funny.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
For that price. Just go with the DDMWorks Street Intake. Looks much better and you will get a nice turbo sound out of it. Injen one looks crooked and funny.
DDM street intake costs more than the injen intake from what i see, the injen is $199 and the DDM street intake is like $250 iirc
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by luigi90210
DDM street intake costs more than the injen intake from what i see, the injen is $199 and the DDM street intake is like $250 iirc
DDM is cheaper:

http://www.waymotorworks.com/ddmwork...et-intake.html

And i agree that the Injen looks like poop.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Cold air being denser than hot air, anytime you can get actual COLD air into your intake would seem optimal. I did see one kit that used air from the plastic cowl area under the windshield. Can't remember the name of it. Dang. Not sure if is even "do-able" with the 2011 Cooper S.

The stock air intake comes from behind or next to the left headlight, from my observations. Seems like cold air to me. Now if there were a way to smooth the airflow from that point to the airbox, wouldn't that seem a much better way to go? If there is ROOM, of course. There's a lot of hardware and piping in that cramped engine bay. Anyone have any ideas on modifying the stock inlet tube, versus using a "cold-air" intake that actually sucks HOT air from under the hood?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by renchjeep
Cold air being denser than hot air, anytime you can get actual COLD air into your intake would seem optimal. I did see one kit that used air from the plastic cowl area under the windshield. Can't remember the name of it. Dang. Not sure if is even "do-able" with the 2011 Cooper S.

The stock air intake comes from behind or next to the left headlight, from my observations. Seems like cold air to me. Now if there were a way to smooth the airflow from that point to the airbox, wouldn't that seem a much better way to go? If there is ROOM, of course. There's a lot of hardware and piping in that cramped engine bay. Anyone have any ideas on modifying the stock inlet tube, versus using a "cold-air" intake that actually sucks HOT air from under the hood?
you should research how intercoolers work sometime in the near future

I can tell you i see 6 above ambient with my "hot air intake" i made myself for literally nothing(had the parts lying around already)

if you really want a good CAI, AEM is the one id get(in fact ill be getting it)
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by renchjeep
The stock air intake comes from behind or next to the left headlight, from my observations. Seems like cold air to me.
First of all, in turbo cars it is FAR more important to control air temperature increase as the air is compressed in the turbo (100+ F temp increase), then fight over 5-10 F temp deltas at the filter. Therefore, the importance of a large, effective intercooler (e.g.: Forge, Alta, etc) that doesn't get heat-soaked after few minutes of running at full boost (like OEM does).

More here: http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=109789

Secondly, OEM intake is about as cold air as you can get: enclosed air-filter box, air scooped and directed from the grill. Perfect, except for one thing - the total area of the filter will restrict maximum air flow at full throttle. JCW intake mitigates this somewhat by installing a larger paper-cone filter inside an enclosed air box.
Aftermarket filters take it a step further by introducing a larger cloth or foam filters that can filter more air over larger surface areas. Usually, at the expense of reduced filtering efficiency.

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Now if there were a way to smooth the airflow from that point to the airbox, wouldn't that seem a much better way to go? If there is ROOM, of course. There's a lot of hardware and piping in that cramped engine bay. Anyone have any ideas on modifying the stock inlet tube, versus using a "cold-air" intake that actually sucks HOT air from under the hood?
What evidence do you have that stock air ducting disturbs the airflow in any material way?

There is plenty of room for larger air ducts, or piping air through the decorative air intake in the hood, but none of it makes much difference as you are fighting over a few degrees of pre-filter air. Significantly more performance gains can be realized by managing the airflow through a larger, more efficient intercooler that properly cools compressed air back down to ~100F mark !

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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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Thanks for the help, guys. This is my first turbo car, and I apparently have a lot to learn. I always try to get the coldest air possible to my naturally aspirated engines. I see where cooling down the charged air would be more important than the intake air. So a larger and/or more efficient intercooler is on my shopping list. Any recommendations? Is there anything out there that is more efficient, relatively easy to install, and not priced out-of-this-world?
 
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