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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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Give me some good suggestions for a complete water/meth kit for my MCS please

I'm looking to get a water/meth kit for my newly purchased MCS and I'd like it to be something that's plug-n-play without having to piece anything together.

any suggestions?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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I just installed a HFS4 from Aquamist. In the US you buy it from Howerton Engineering. They sell a kit that is specifically for MINI. Very straight forward install.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 09:21 AM
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^^^^LOL

There are very detailed threads on this.

Answer = Aquamist.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Thanks for the very USELESS response.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Thanks for the very USELESS response.
Actually the BEST response....
Rather than waiting a few days for an answer (that may or may not be right...possibly from a FANBOY of one product) you can spend 15 minutes and do some research....
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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Or it's just as easy for people to IGNORE these types of threads that seem to warrant the whole "just do a search" reply.

There'd be no reason to keep a forum open if a subject was only talked about one time. Then why even have the forum open???? Just have one huge FAQ page and be done with it.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Or it's just as easy for people to IGNORE these types of threads that seem to warrant the whole "just do a search" reply.

There'd be no reason to keep a forum open if a subject was only talked about one time. Then why even have the forum open???? Just have one huge FAQ page and be done with it.
You must be new to the internet. Welcome.

If you DO happen to use said search function, you will find an abundance of threads with detailed opinions on them. The answer isn't to keep starting new threads on the same subject.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Or it's just as easy for people to IGNORE these types of threads that seem to warrant the whole "just do a search" reply.

There'd be no reason to keep a forum open if a subject was only talked about one time. Then why even have the forum open???? Just have one huge FAQ page and be done with it.
Hmm...
Well...it is about give and take....
When doing the new stuff....you are breaking new ground...but once an general opinion has formed.... Why ASK...
Crowd sourcing is an free easy way yo get info...but ask the mundane too often...and folks tire...and you will hear nothing but folks asking....
Call it karma if you will....but with forums it is about give and take...
If there are too many "drive by" takers...then they die rapidly from folks who give up cause it gets mind numbingly boring....kind of like sewing...hense the nickname "the sewing site"....
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Okay people. Just ignore this thread if u can't give me any info to the thread subject. Hopefully that seems simple enough.

Good God....
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Okay people. Just ignore this thread if u can't give me any info to the thread subject. Hopefully that seems simple enough.

Good God....
Just a thought....
If you add your question or knowledge to an existing thread on said subject...
You keep the info in that thread from getting forgotten....that is THE main reason...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Hopefully that seems simple enough.
Watch and learn:



Good god.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cerenkov
I just installed a HFS4 from Aquamist. In the US you buy it from Howerton Engineering. They sell a kit that is specifically for MINI. Very straight forward install.
Thank you for the helpful info. I contacted Jeff and he gave me very good advice. I was ready to pull the trigger but my tuner guy told me to be careful with adding this to my car. He thinks this will give BMW an instant excuse to void my car's warranty.

Now that has me thinking twice about going this route.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by miniforozzie
Thank you for the helpful info. I contacted Jeff and he gave me very good advice. I was ready to pull the trigger but my tuner guy told me to be careful with adding this to my car. He thinks this will give BMW an instant excuse to void my car's warranty.

Now that has me thinking twice about going this route.
That is something to consider when making any modifications to the car. Now technically they can really only deny warranty claims if the modification caused the problem, but that can lead to a big legal nightmare and BMW/MINI have much deeper pockets than I to fund litigation. This is only a decision that you can make, it's your wallet.

I ended up installing it because I believe that over the long run the kit will only help with the health of the engine and I only have 3.5 years left on the warranty anyway . I do plan a getting a real tune once the N18 is able to be flashed via the ODB2 port, but I do not plan on tuning for meth.

I lot of people will say that the HFS4 is over kill for the R56 but I chose that route because of the quality reviews (here and elsewhere) and the great technical support from Jeff at Howerton and Richard at Aquamist. It is pricey but the kit is basically as bolt on as you can get and to me that's worth the premium price.

There are quite of few people running the HFS3 and HFS4 on their MINI's and the knowledge base is out there.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:46 PM
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Great information again. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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I also agree that the AquaMist / Howerton Engineering kit is where it is at.

But here is a link for you: Water Meth Mini Kits
 
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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Of the original 36k miles warranty, I went in once. Warped hood scoop.

If you don't want to void your warranty and you're afraid of getting it voided, why bother modding in the first place? Of the few times I went in to get anything done or the 15k and 30k oil changes, I never got crap from any of my SA, don't over think it...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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I'm an advisor at a Toyota dealer. If there is a modded car we really don't care. As long as it doesn't cause an issue you're fine. Plenty of FRS's come in with mods. They all have their warranty still. If a mod causes a problem, that would not be covered, but its all fine otherwise.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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The only reason why I'd do the meth kit is to help to keep the carbon buildup to a minimum.
 
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I have the AquaMist HFS-3 kit installed on my car and you could install one of these kits in such a way that it could be removed in a minimal amount of time if you wished to do so.

Even the bung for the injector comes in the kit with a plug.

I have not written an article for my webpage for the Water/Meth install, but I will have to do it soon but here is some photos:

AquaMist install in an R53

As you can see the system is very modular.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by c0op3r
I have the AquaMist HFS-3 kit installed on my car and you could install one of these kits in such a way that it could be removed in a minimal amount of time if you wished to do so.

Even the bung for the injector comes in the kit with a plug.

I have not written an article for my webpage for the Water/Meth install, but I will have to do it soon but here is some photos:

AquaMist install in an R53

As you can see the system is very modular.
Sweet info!

so would I have to tap some threads in order to install the meth nozzle? if so, what kind of work is involved there?
 

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