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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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Turbo Heat shield recall??

I was on the phone with ask mini today and apparently theres a recall for the turbo heat shield. I was just curious if anyone knew what this entailed obviously something with the heat shield but..?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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I was on the phone with ask mini today and apparently theres a recall for the turbo heat shield. I was just curious if anyone knew what this entailed obviously something with the heat shield but..?
I was at the dealer Saturday getting state inspection and they put mine on. It is the same as 11657634747 but of heavier metal with an insulation tag attached to it or wrapping the pipe.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Quite interesting! Wondering what years it covers? I have an appt this Thursday for an oil change and AC vibration noise.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Quite interesting! Wondering what years it covers? I have an appt this Thursday for an oil change and AC vibration noise.
07 on with a turbo, I believe.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Hmm.. I wonder what brought that on? Probably some liability lol.
Well I suppose I should make an appointment I assume the new heat shield still had the screw holes for the aftermarket heat shields
 
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Well, it's not that big of a piece. It clips on to the oil line that affixes to the very top of your turbo. It shields only the banjo bolt fitting and the new piece has a insulation wrap that is supposed to offer some insulation from the heat of the turbo and exhaust manifold. From reading on these forums, I surmise it is to help stop premature leakage of oil at the banjo fitting and I could guess also to keep the oil flowing through the pipe a little cooler thus retaining some viscosity for the turbo lubrication. 11657634747 is what the base of the retrofit looks like but made of a thicker metal with the insulation wrap attached to it with rivets. It's free. Can't hurt.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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That's interesting... I just checked http://www.miniusa.com/content/miniu...rt/recall.html and it doesn't note any outstanding recalls for my VIN ('07 S)
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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I believe it is very very recent as the ask mini rep had no idea what it entailed. You could call over to check.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Neither miniusa nor my dealership who recently had my 07 have said anything of this recall, yet my car does not have the shield....
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MikewithaMini
I was at the dealer Saturday getting state inspection and they put mine on. It is the same as 11657634747 but of heavier metal with an insulation tag attached to it or wrapping the pipe.
Does it look like this ? I think the early version of this just had the top part and not the additional wrap.

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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That is the part exactly! Glad you found it! This I think they consider a campaign, not a recall.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Any idea why my dealer would not have A: brought it up at my last time in there, or B: Not have done it when the car was traded in, in the first place???
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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It was only "released" last Friday afternoon. Have you been to your dealer since then?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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That part has been available since at least May of 2013. My car went to the dealer just before going to the Dragon this year and had this put on while they replaced the leaking turbo oil line.

Don't know anything bout any campaign, I view it as a small stop gap to try to get the oil lines for the turbo to last longer by deflecting more heat from them.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 05r50
That part has been available since at least May of 2013. My car went to the dealer just before going to the Dragon this year and had this put on while they replaced the leaking turbo oil line.

Don't know anything bout any campaign, I view it as a small stop gap to try to get the oil lines for the turbo to last longer by deflecting more heat from them.
No doubt. It's a campaign now.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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what's interesting is my 2007 S has no heat shield, but has some black insulation attached under the hood scoop. When I had the aux water cooler recall done, they didn't say anything except I could buy a heatshield for about 100 bucks.
Guess I'll call them, though they haven't been real helpful in the past.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nrfitchett4
what's interesting is my 2007 S has no heat shield, but has some black insulation attached under the hood scoop. When I had the aux water cooler recall done, they didn't say anything except I could buy a heatshield for about 100 bucks.
Guess I'll call them, though they haven't been real helpful in the past.
campaign started Friday. See the ECS post ^^^^ for what it looks like.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MikewithaMini
campaign started Friday. See the ECS post ^^^^ for what it looks like.
thought there was a previous recall to add the heatshield to the 2007's because of hood scoop deforming.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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Prevents oil coking (burning/charing) on the inside of the oil pipe.

Coked oil lines = failed turbos..

My buddy who works at Mini says that when they replace a leaky oil line the banjo bolt is often almost totally restricted due to cooked oil.

People don't let the turbo cool down prior to shutdown.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by danjreed
Prevents oil coking (burning/charing) on the inside of the oil pipe.

Coked oil lines = failed turbos..

My buddy who works at Mini says that when they replace a leaky oil line the banjo bolt is often almost totally restricted due to cooked oil.

People don't let the turbo cool down prior to shutdown.
I thought that was what the aux cooler was for?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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When I asked my MA about any special steps for my turbo MINI he said there were none. I asked about shutdown specifically and he said nothing special was needed. How does the turbo cool down before you shut it off anyways?
I also asked about this turbo piece when I had my injectors cleaned today and he said it was for up to 2010.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Beachnmini
When I asked my MA about any special steps for my turbo MINI he said there were none. I asked about shutdown specifically and he said nothing special was needed. How does the turbo cool down before you shut it off anyways?
I also asked about this turbo piece when I had my injectors cleaned today and he said it was for up to 2010.
Haha, oh yea.. the MA has all the answers!

Yea.. no.. cool the turbo down.. let it shed its red-hot-ness to the oil cooler.. and into the coolant... let it cool down for AT LEAST 30 seconds to 1 minute after a long fully warmed up run.. every vehicle.. with a turbo.. needs this done. No need to let it run for longer than that..

Sure.. modern oils.. bla bla bla bla... Not worth the risk.

I do a end-flight deplane... take off seat belt.. roll up windows... turn down radio... reset heater... unplug phone... get my coffee cup... look at engine oil temp on Scangauge... is it 10 degrees more than coolant temp? Yes, turn car off.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nrfitchett4
I thought that was what the aux cooler was for?
Thats an after run water pump to circulate hot coolant out of the head.. Lots of non turbo Euro cars have one of these.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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I picked my car up from it's inspection/diagnosis Friday evening, so if that's when it came out, I might as well call. Being a campaign, it wouldn't be listed as a recall on MINI's site when checking my VIN, right? What does a campaign entail different than a recall, TSB, or extended part warranty?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Lots of misinformation here.....

You do NOT have to let the engine idle for 30 sec or whatever before you shut it down unless you just came off the racetrack and straight to a stop. The turbo is water cooled, and after shutdown the aux pump continues to circulate water thru the turbo, keeping it from heat soaking and coking the bearings.

Normal street driving does not need a cool down procedure, the car will take care of it. The most important thing you can do to prevent the supply line from coking up is to change your oil regularly, and use a top quality synthetic oil. How often depends on your driving situation, but I never go more than 10K or 1 year, just like MINI says (now) - also, keep your oil level full, don't let it run a quart low, and you'll be fine.
 
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