Anyone talk dealership into a free set of tires?
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Anyone talk dealership into a free set of tires?
I was given the tire bulletin and I noticed if you opted for the "regular performance tires" over the kumho tires the dealership would change the tires and send the kumhos out to be destroyed.
Seems like a waste to me. If they are just going to be destroyed, why can't I keep them?
Seems like a waste to me. If they are just going to be destroyed, why can't I keep them?
But what if you destroy them first ?? You have one or two weeks to destroy the Kumho's and then get a brand new set of run flats
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It's a liability to keep a set of tires that were originally on the car in my garage; but not a liability to drive away from the dealership with those exact same tires actually on the car???
Is it because the tires explode when not mounted on a wheel?
Is it because the tires explode when not mounted on a wheel?
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The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
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The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
So, let me get this straight. The GP2 is being shipped with V700s, but you can swap them out for free if you want?
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They offered me Conti or Bridgestone Runflats. But I looked up the tires in the MINI parts catalog and they show non runflat Michelin Pilot Sports 205/45/17 as the alternate tire to the Kumhos. That is the best option and what I want, so now we just got to get MINI to give them to us.
But I looked up the tires in the MINI parts catalog and they show non runflat Michelin Pilot Sports 205/45/17 as the alternate tire to the Kumhos.
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Kumho's website front and center crows about the V700 being picked as the OEM tire for the MINI GP. That quote stating the tire is inappropiate for the highway appears to be from Tirerack. I have a well worn set on a Lotus Elan. They are fine in dry warm weather. My Hoosier A6's on the other hand got a puncture from a small rock in the paddock at an autocross.
Kumho's website front and center crows about the V700 being picked as the OEM tire for the MINI GP
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If the tire pictured on the Kumho site behind the V710 is a new Ecsta V700 it is not the same tire pictured by Tirerack. The ones I have are the same as the Tirerack picture. The new tire (if that is it) looks more rain capable.
As for your question, I have insufficient information to conclude why BMW would put them on the car and then get paranoid about it. I can only point out that the Tirerack description of any R-comp tire is super conservative and aimed at people who don't know squat about performance driving.
Here's the link to the Kumho boast: http://www.kumhotireusa.com/news/index/205
As for your question, I have insufficient information to conclude why BMW would put them on the car and then get paranoid about it. I can only point out that the Tirerack description of any R-comp tire is super conservative and aimed at people who don't know squat about performance driving.
Here's the link to the Kumho boast: http://www.kumhotireusa.com/news/index/205
You must also take in to account the US way of class action law suits, these tires leave the door wide open. I'm with Way for the Michelins - we all need to push for these.
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Still don't understand why, if I decide to swap, I can't have the tires that they are going to throw in the garbage, which were originally on the car. It is far less liability for the dealership if the "dangerous" tires leave in my trunk rather than on my wheels.
Attached is the bulletin.
Attached is the bulletin.
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Still don't understand why, if I decide to swap, I can't have the tires that they are going to throw in the garbage, which were originally on the car. It is far less liability for the dealership if the "dangerous" tires leave in my trunk rather than on my wheels.
Attached is the bulletin.
Attached is the bulletin.
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Still don't understand why, if I decide to swap, I can't have the tires that they are going to throw in the garbage, which were originally on the car. It is far less liability for the dealership if the "dangerous" tires leave in my trunk rather than on my wheels.
Attached is the bulletin.
Attached is the bulletin.
Maybe this will help
The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
The Ecsta V700 (V70A) is Kumho’s Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only radial developed in Europe and imported to the United States. The V700 is attractively priced and designed to be a racing value by delivering great traction and treadwear per dollar.
While Ecsta V700 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not appropriate for highway use. Shaved or worn Ecsta V700 radials are not recommended for driving in wet conditions where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Dry Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Ecsta V700 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 32 degrees F.
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You paid for one set, not both. You seem to want something for free and that is not the way life works. If you want the other set, pay for them, pretty simple.
As for why they put those on the car, they decided on performance tires for a performance car. Nothing new to be honest. At least they are giving people an option to get other tires.
As for why they put those on the car, they decided on performance tires for a performance car. Nothing new to be honest. At least they are giving people an option to get other tires.
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Still don't understand why, if I decide to swap, I can't have the tires that they are going to throw in the garbage, which were originally on the car. It is far less liability for the dealership if the "dangerous" tires leave in my trunk rather than on my wheels.
Attached is the bulletin.
Attached is the bulletin.
They offered me Conti or Bridgestone Runflats. But I looked up the tires in the MINI parts catalog and they show non runflat Michelin Pilot Sports 205/45/17 as the alternate tire to the Kumhos. That is the best option and what I want, so now we just got to get MINI to give them to us.
