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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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07 mini cooper non-s transmission fluid

I got 07 mini hits 77k now and never had transmission fluid changed. every mechanic says its lifetime and i dont have to change it. but looks like everyone in nam had it every 30k. anybody can recommend which one i have to use? and tell me how much it will be in service shop?
 
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I'm assuming this is not a convertible, and you have the GA6F21WA 6-speed auto transmission that comes with the gen 2 MINI Cooper (non-S)

Redline D4 ATF or Amsoil ATFQT should be equivalent to the oem ATF fluid.

MINI specifies the use of ESSO JWS-3309 ATF fluid or equivalent.
Pelican Parts carries the Febi or Fuchs equivalent brand (part number 83-22-0-402-413).
You’ll need around 6 quarts to fill the transmission completely.

Here's a nice link, although it applies to R53 and R52 MC-S models, which have the same auto transmission as the 2007-present R56 plain Cooper models:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...uid_Change.htm

If you have a R52 2007 Convertible with a CVT auto transmission, then Redline NonSlipCVT fluid would be ok.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by yyj3869
I got 07 mini hits 77k now and never had transmission fluid changed. every mechanic says its lifetime and i dont have to change it. but looks like everyone in nam had it every 30k. anybody can recommend which one i have to use? and tell me how much it will be in service shop?
It would get quite expensive if it were every 30k, I'll have Molly's done in April, she'll turn 5yrs. old and will have less than 60k on her. I've been quoted I think $800+ but don't remember the exact amount.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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any automatic trans fluid should be fine.. for example, https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produ...?code=ATFQT-EA

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Stick to the JWS3309 fluid. There have been reports of failed transmissions after using a non-specified fluid. It is VERY cheap at the Toyota dealer ($6 per quart). Type IV.

The pan holds about 2.5 quarts and is easy to swap. The instructions are here on the forums.

My service manual states the transmission fluid is a 100k mile service item. But I noticed a shift improvement at 50k miles when I changed the pan fluid. The dealer wanted an absurd $450 to change the pan fluid.
 
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Stick to the JWS3309 fluid. There have been reports of failed transmissions after using a non-specified fluid. It is VERY cheap at the Toyota dealer ($6 per quart). Type IV.

The pan holds about 2.5 quarts and is easy to swap. The instructions are here on the forums.

My service manual states the transmission fluid is a 100k mile service item. But I noticed a shift improvement at 50k miles when I changed the pan fluid. The dealer wanted an absurd $450 to change the pan fluid.
these are right one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-Toyo...b13bb1&vxp=mtr

do you think it needs flush?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Yes that fluid is correct!

I would highly recommend doing the flush. As it is the lifeblood of the tranny and it is super cheap compared to the price of a rebuild or replacement.
 
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Yes that fluid is correct!

I would highly recommend doing the flush. As it is the lifeblood of the tranny and it is super cheap compared to the price of a rebuild or replacement.
if i do flush, how many quarts do i need to buy?
 
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I would recommend getting at least four, in case of a screw-up during the procedure, or a spill. Always handy to have a few extra on-hand. The pan drain and fill is approximately 2.5 quarts. The transmission holds much more that internally.

How frequently you change it, is up to you. But I am doing it at 10k to 15k mile intervals (I started at 50k exactly when the warranty expired).
 
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I would recommend getting at least four, in case of a screw-up during the procedure, or a spill. Always handy to have a few extra on-hand. The pan drain and fill is approximately 2.5 quarts. The transmission holds much more that internally.

How frequently you change it, is up to you. But I am doing it at 10k to 15k mile intervals (I started at 50k exactly when the warranty expired).
just called and got qouted from specialist near my place. he said it needs to be replaced with filter as well and price is $500. i think this is crazy.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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I have a manual, but a filter....?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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There is a filter. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is required. That maybe the shop's policy as I could see a potential liability issue. But it can't hurt to change the filter, that does involve removing the pan and replacing the gasket. So that adds a lot more time and cost. That is a lot better price than what a dealer would charge!

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just called and got qouted from specialist near my place. he said it needs to be replaced with filter as well and price is $500. i think this is crazy.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Pass on the flush

I'd pass on the flush, drain and refills will be all you need. Definitely go with the filter this time. Where are you located? Perhaps a board member can give you a hand.
 
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I'd pass on the flush, drain and refills will be all you need. Definitely go with the filter this time. Where are you located? Perhaps a board member can give you a hand.
im in glendale southern california. any good service u know?
 
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I think they work on all German makes, colleague works out that way and has an A8.

Shouldn't be too much, I'd just avoid hooking up machines....drain and refill.
 
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How do we know its cvt or not? mine is r56 07 justa (not covertible)with automaric. is it cvt?
 
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$500 is reasonable if you read up on what has to be done. Unbolt the engine and stuff.
I'm still not sure if it can be done without putting the car into the "service position" (bumper off, lights out, pull front of car out 3 inches). I think a clever mechanic might get away with not doing that.

My personal recommendation is to get the VW tool and a hand pump plus about 10 quarts of Toyota Type IV ATF from the Toyota dealer at $6 each and just keep the fluid new by changing 2 quarts at a time and driving it a week, x4.
REPLACE YOUR PLASTIC STANDPIPE WHEN YOU DO THIS

I have a climate controlled garage with air tools and in the end I opted to not change the filter because it just looked like so much work.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yyj3869
How do we know its cvt or not? mine is r56 07 justa (not covertible)with automaric. is it cvt?
2007-present R56 Coopers have the GA6F21WA conventional automatic transmission (dependable)

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...56&hg=24&fg=05

2003-2007 R52 and 2001-2006 R50 Coopers have the CVT (GACVT16Z) (not known for longevity)

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...99&hg=24&fg=05
 
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redline d4 vs genuine mini atf

Is there any way a Mini dealer service department can tell the difference between the redline oil and the genuine mini oil? I already bought redline but my transmission might have some problems so it will be back for some warranty work on transmission. If they see I have non mini fluid they will not cover repairs. Can they tell the difference? I would like to use the redline atf because I think it's better but I don't want to void warranty. I understand the oil as far as the manufacturer is concerned is supposed to be lifetime and I reached the lifetime of almost 100k so the oil is recommended to be changed.

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I'm assuming this is not a convertible, and you have the GA6F21WA 6-speed auto transmission that comes with the gen 2 MINI Cooper (non-S)

Redline D4 ATF or Amsoil ATFQT should be equivalent to the oem ATF fluid.

MINI specifies the use of ESSO JWS-3309 ATF fluid or equivalent.
Pelican Parts carries the Febi or Fuchs equivalent brand (part number 83-22-0-402-413).
You’ll need around 6 quarts to fill the transmission completely.

Here's a nice link, although it applies to R53 and R52 MC-S models, which have the same auto transmission as the 2007-present R56 plain Cooper models:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...uid_Change.htm

If you have a R52 2007 Convertible with a CVT auto transmission, then Redline NonSlipCVT fluid would be ok.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 04:17 AM
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A MINI dealer service or parts department will not recommend a non factory fluid. If your car is still covered under a factory or extended warranty and you had an issue they may send the fluid out for analysis.
 
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I just drained mine. NO filter change only 40k miles. fluid was dark . which means it got hot. but NO metal on plug. 2.5 qts of fluid. should do it about 3 times . i see i should have looked for over flow tube. .that might increase the amount that comes out. will look next time up in drain hole.
 
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